I'm bored with watching the Boks

under pathetically inadequate coaches......the breaking point for me was witnessing the utterly useless Adriaanse take the field as our replacement prop followed by the equally pathetic Morne Steyn return to the fold.....is this seriously the best the incompetent Coetzee has to offer.
It was bad enough being dragged through 4 years of Meyer, but now we are faced with another 4 under this idiot......seriously what is the point? Its so disheartening being a Bok supporter, knowing there is no prospect of any light at the end of the tunnel.
I've lost my Bok spark, I cant stomach the crap Coetzee dishes out. He cant select and he gives the side no direction.
Now I see de Jongh is due to start at 12.....what the hell is that about?
Combrink gets injured and we see the recall of Mvovo
How stupid is Coetzee, seriously......how are we meant to keep the enthusiasm up watching sub standard sides selected playing directionless rugby.
My expectations of the Boks under Coetzee are so low.....I'm no longer drawn to pass comment.
Coetzee is worse than Meyer, that is how bad things are
Whats the solution rugby buddies? I'm struggling

The logical thing to have done at the end of the Meyer era was to give the Springbok coach job to a New Zealander. 
The reality is our coaches are useless- and therefore turn our backline players into crash ball donkeys. 
Only Johan Ackerman seems to understand the game- although that is mostly likely the influence of John Mitchell.
The quota aspect is also having a negative effect- as players are being selected as individuals and not combinations. 
Our back row is useless at the breakdown, an area of the game where the Boks are no longer test standard.Our forwards are either too slow- or they have poor technique at ball recovery. Our players also want to get that extra half inch of territory, at the risk of not protecting the ball properly or falling to face the support players. Ball carriers are also isolated with little understanding of what a game plan is or was.

Ag ou Dawie, give us a list
your contribution we have mostly missed 
Show us how we can win the day

If only we let the young ones have their say...

Hold on, I'm hearing that's already been tried.

And Jantjies was toasted if not deep fried.
Still give us a list with four young  Bok teams
That will beat the All Blacks in the land of your dreams.








 

 Dave your absence from the board took away 50% of the sense on this Board and Mozart is running wild with his idiocy,   The last vestige of international rugby in SA has gone with the appointment of the idiot Coetzee as coach - you are correct about what you wrote.  H e is worse than Meyer was - but Meyer was bad enough so what can one do?   

Another whine from Big Tit.  

 Dave welcome back sorry about two things though:
1. That the "Goats" are lost under the ANC and that moron of a coach.
2. Did I say moron....must be thinking of Morefart from the USA.
But we are flogging a lost cause with both I'm afraid.
BUT PLEASED THAT U ARE BACK.

 Well Dave ... I have an awesome butcher close by and he owns the bottle store right next door ... so I pop around on Friday evening before the test match and get me a 6 pack of Windhoek Draught ... which I chill over night to just this side of freezing ... and of course a few pieces of his incredible beef biltong ... which I carve up myself with a special little pocket knife I received from my grandfather ages ago. 
An hour or so before the match starts I'll have put two beer mugs in the freezer ... excellent to keep the beer chilled during the match.   
That in itself already has me looking forward to the test match.
I am at least two beers down by the time the whistle sounds.
Then it's just a matter of hoping the Goats get another thumping.
That to me is a successful test match day.

"Whats the solution rugby buddies? I'm struggling."

There is only one solution and it's not a quick fix. We need to start putting rugby poles in township schools.

Sadly (and stupidly), our politicians expect rugby to be representative of the entire population rather than the rugby-playing population so the quotas are short-sighted and unrealistic. To make them realistic we need to get black kids playing rugby in their schools. Right now the only blacks playing rugby are those from the Eastern Cape or those who attended traditionally white rugby-playing schools.

Having said that, I don't think the average ANC politician has any interest in seeing rugby grow at school level, he's more interested in dragging rugby down to the level of our embarrassingly pathetic national football team. It's ironic that Buffoona Buffoona are as pathetic as they are despite not being subjected to the same racist policies.

Anyway, I digress, the future of Springbok . . . or Protea . . . rugby currently depends on getting the majority of our population playing the game or at least becoming interested in it. Not quite sure how this is going to happen if we keep getting clobbered by the likes of Ireland, Argentina and Japan but still . . .

 Ya Dave
Agree with you wholeheartedly.
Im holding hopes though that their is light...
By next year we will have either Vermeulen or Whitely as captain... both of whom are fantastic players and both fantastic leaders.

We have all the talent.
But a kak coaching philosophy.
Im enjoying what RdP is doing at the Sharks and obviously what Akkers has done at the Lions.

Im holding tight for now!

 One could weep at ou rootwits take on matters. He admits the big failing points in his solution. Hahhaahhahaha has rooitwit any feet left to shoot at!
Heaven forbid rooitwit that the solution should bee eliminated racism in sport!!!! 
Rassei, Jake, Mallet and venter are excellent coaches. By all means get in attack coaches from outside.  However bea r in mind the Lions DECIDED to play a balanced game and did so with Sa coaches.Pick the right forwards and the pack is very mobile. What is wrong with guys like Kitshoff, Marx/armand, Du Toit and E=ben, krile Whiteley and any number of 7s who are mobile. Pack mobi lity need not be any issue at all.
No the fact is there are a number of factors ruining our rugby as listed awhile back.
Meanwhile Beeno is enjoying the US open immensely. tennis is a merit based game where cheating umpires don't rule. You don't play at the US open because you are the correct colour.  You getting a glimmer rooitwit! 

 Beeno's spelling is worser than my too year old suns

 

The quota issue is a political nightmare – but those members outside of SA are  indeed lucky, because things are going to get worse politically.

Zuma and his patronage  looters  have now exhausted every source for looting through their Gupta mafia brotherhood and are looking for new additional fields to loot.    The Treasury must bee captured .  That is because the Finance Minister has put some stop to some major contracts aimed  particularly for major looting.   So Zuma is trying to get rid of Gordhan by using the Hawks for the purpose.     He will replace him with another crooked stooge that will not take action to stop crooked contracts.

Zuma is sick of being subject to investigations by the Public Protector  and that must also be stopped asap.   Madonsela’s  term of office transpire next month  and the stooges in the ANC selected an unknown for the job.   The unknown happen to be a state security spy – so there goes another thread to the looting process.   

Meanwhile the ANC is in chaos with more than 60% of the people want Zuma to resign.     There are serious unrest in many areas because of Zuma plants in local authorities.    The voters ar sick of the looting and incompetence and the ANC  lost 9% support in the recent  local government elections leaving them with 53,9% support  amongst the voters.  The Metro vote where the Clever Blacks (Zuna’s term to described them) are staying is in open revolt and the  loss  of control in Port Elizabeth, Johannesburg and Pretoria  - as well as in Sasolburg, Mohale City, Warmbaths and some other Muncipalities (I use the old names)  clarified the situation.  Zuma said that the ANC will rule until the second coming of Jesus and the wags said they saw him in the centers  mentioned.   Be it as it may – the  ANC is in two clear camps.    On the one side with Zuma is the patronage looters  and on the other side the rest.

So what impact does it have on rugby?   The answer is simple -  the ANC has been beating the race drum recently and despite the fact that they  used it, they lost the support of millions of Black voters in the recent elections.    The voters either stayed away from voting at all because of disgruntlement  or went the whole hog and voted for the opposition.   So what will be the end result in rugby terms?   The answer is simple – bash the rest of the population and try and drum up support  by hitting the  quota drum to the maximum.

And the economy is  going downhill with Zuma making sure it leads to junk status.    CRY THE BELOVED  COUNTRY.    

Nope, the Bok team in 2016, even this poor team, would have beaten our 2000 Boks hands down. Things are improving.....but relatively this is the worst team in Bok history. Why? Because our opponents have been improving dramatically.

So Rooilochte's solution is to pit our blacks against NZ's and England's Polynesian players. Good luck with that, even 15 years from now when that policy might start having a marginal effect.

The last great Bok team recorded will be the one that defeated the Lions and NZ in 2009. The last members of that great team made a run for the WC in 2015, losing to the best AB team we have seen by 2 points.
And they did it while being vilified by their so called fans. In almost every sense it's over.

 Accepting racism is not a solution. 
Selecting on merit is the only way forward.
Black kids are being taught to love soccer by their parents.
The only way we can get a few more black kids interested in rugby is to convince their parents to make the changes at home.
How many black parents will stop watching soccer and flip over to the rugby channel?
I can't see it happening.
 

 The worst Bok team in history can NEVER be worse than Meyer's squad was during the last two years.   The over-the-hill players in that squad was a major problem and Mozart supported them all out.   A nutcase our dear Mozart remains.    The same players that played in the WC managed to lose against JAPAN - a team who never beat the Springboks before and the present team would have a walk in the Park against them.   The Irish and Argentina wiped the floor with them in 2014 and 2015 - but that is conveniently hidden away by or resident BSter.   What a farce that idiot makes of this Board.     

 Have we ever lost to a team as far down the pecking order as Japan?
No!!
We must remember that a team consists not only of it's match 23 but the coaching and management staff as well. They're all responsible for the end result. 
So yes ... I agree ... Meyer and his Goats should absolutely be declared winners of the worst team in Bok history.
That loss will always be remembered ... and so will the players playing in the match be remembered ... and so will the coach and his staff be remembered.
  

 You have what you wanted Dom Mike. It takes a bit of imagination to step outside your micro world....sadly you missed what was happening in the world around you. I warned you, but you knew better......live with it.

 Really ... ??? ... and this from a fool who thinks Coetzee's selections are our best?
Who's the delusional one? 
 

 Jirre mike thats proper Zuma logic...

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Nope, the Bok team in 2016, even this poor team, would have beaten our 2000 Boks hands down. Things are improving.....but relatively this is the worst team in Bok history. Why? Because our opponents have been improving dramatically."

 Chipped ou opines - Beeno's spelling is worser than my too year old sunsOne always has to have a big laugh when a spell fiend crashes! It would appear ou chipped ou doesn't know the difference between "Sons" and "Suns". Hahhahahahaha which if true would making him illiterate. But I give ou chipped ou the benefit of the doubt being the generous type I am.

 Oh brother ... !!!
You do realise that he was .......... oh never mind!!

Ou maaaaikie you are a bundle of contradictions. You support Crooked, lying Hillary who is as corrupt as Zuma and far, far more dangerous.

 Mr. Been,

you are probably still in time to delete your answer to Chippo and avoid the embarrasment

.... wating for Chippo's answer

Nope I don't think Coetzee's selections are the best. But I also don't think the Golden Lions are  all test players.....we don't have many of those.

 Mozart ... a question ... why do you keep responding to a post on the wrong thread?
Don't you think it's a little easier to keep up with the discussion when you have all the relevant posts on the same thread?
I hope your not expecting us to jump from thread to thread to see what your take is on a subject?