I need to watch that Ireland game again
Dave
There were 6 kicks at goal by the Springb oks with only 1 being converted. That is all I needed to see to realize why the Springboks lost he match.
The playersd thst really produced the goods are being criticized on site - while those that really produc ed nothing are being praised on site.
Thought it was 5 attempts with 1 successful.
Funny thing is, if FAF got his first penalty instead of hitting the post the phase of play that lead to the South African try would not have occurred. Had you nailed all your penalties you would have scored 9 points from them but wouldn't have picked up a try and wouldn't have a conversion attempt to miss.
Can also see Ireland turned down a very easy 3 points at the start of the game and later a much more difficult opportunity for 3 from the sideline but if you think FAF should should have nailed his difficult long range kicks then we could say Sexton who's a better kicker than FAF would have got those as well.
From an Irish perspective our lineout hasn't been functioning great in this world cup so far but credit must also be given to South Africa for disrupting it in that game. If we can get our lineout back to our 6 Nations standards we can give ourselves more scoring opportunities.
All in all, very little between the two teams and both sides have things they can improve on, and neither side will lack belief they can win if they meet again.
Sexton’s conversion made it 7-3 at the interval and some of the statistics made interesting reading. Ireland had conceded only three penalties in the first 40 minutes compared to South Africa’s seven and five turnovers also reflected their hard work at the breakdown
Stav is right for once. There was nothing in it but on balance the Boks deserved the win as they had more opportunities and only a sub par kicking for goal display prevented the win.
However the Irish won opened the door for the usual fake Bok supporters to trash all their usual suspects Hence Allende got trashed and thst very biased hapless Mozzzz blamed Akmende for the missed tackle on Aki and other matters, Du Toit of course was useless although Sexton called him one of the best loose forwards in the World. Rassie of course was as per usual roasted. Heck he was roasted even after the RWC win. Then it was once again Malherbe in the firing line. All so very predictable. They are like a stuck record. The only new villain was Kolisi. Perhaps not entirely new.
Then we had the most virulent fake Bok supporter following up on his comments thst the Boks had a glass jaw and soft under bly going on to say that Rassie was the worst Bok coach ever. This clown has now been fully exposed.
Indeed so bad was it thst Hakwa commented how poorly the so called Bok supporters were behaving about an unfortunate and very narrow loss.
It was a superb lesson on how to make a complete Mampara of oneself. Bwahahahahaha
There usually isn't much in a game where the points difference ends up being one score or less. An error here, blown opportunity there.
Looks like it.
Mamparapower gives Ireland no credit. Ireland are now on 16 consequetive test wins. They have a great chance to beat the record of 18. Making them one of the outstanding test teams in history.
So we could have won but botched a few things - it only took a few things for us to lose.
Now all of a sudden it's a disaster, emotionally fragile mamparas through their toys out of tbe crib.
They trash the coach, the players and demand the Boks win everything. How absurd do you get. In what team sport anywhere does one nation win everything all the time. Pure nonsense.
Our RWC record is second to none but we will NEVER win all World Cups. We may still win this one.
No all the vitriol is simply because certain twits are emotionally immature and need a target to vent their frustrations. Something that Kiwi Hakwa pointed out. It is all so extreme it becomes hilarious seeing these half bakes go completely unhinged.
Now I am asked to believe it's because they are such great Bok supporters. Listen what they say about the Boks and their coach. Hahahahahaha. In the course of their uncontrollable meltdowns they give themselves away.
Bwahahahahahaha.
SA were worse than we've seen them play in a good while.
Perhaps I'm the only one that thinks this.
We ran Ireland close with a poorly balanced side, hopeless place kicking and a high error rate.
The good news in that is, it can get a whole lot better.
The question is: will it?
I thought we could win and now know we should have won.
Let the couda shoulda comments roll.
As I have said before there are two Bok teams. The aggressive, want to compete, Boks that beat NZ and the safety first Boks that lost to Ireland.
The ‘we have exceeded our expectations’ Boks that demolished England in the WC final vs the ‘we have to beat Wales’ Boks in the semis.
A lot of this is just a manifestation of the Harrassmiss psyche. When the Boks play with hubris they are awesome….safety first and it’s a 50/50.
Mamparapower Ireland are having a very rare run with a very good team. This is possibly their best side ever and one thst we could have beaten.
No side wins all the time. After doing very well for some years the wee abs are not what they were.
To have a hissyfit and malign coach and staff after a very close loss like this which could have gone our way is just the action of a petulant child venting their frustration. Then worse you try to cover up your very childish behavior saying you only want the Boks to win all the time etc.
Bwahahahahaha. Instead of being a mampara how about growing up?
Ou mampara power striving for frot 5 status.
I hope you not going to go on whining like some cry baby everytime the Boks lose a match. We have enough of these snowflakes posting here. They are an embarrassment.
Too many fake Bok supporters here making total twits of themselves. Hahahahahahaha.
Boks lose and a river of tears flows. Man up oaks, take on the chin, stiff upper lip what!
The worst part though is that it takes a Kiwi to point out the rediculous the behavior. Old Bok supporters would turn in their graves at the comments made by the fakes here.
So let's be clear. Allende is a good test center, Du Toit is a class loose. Malherbe is a solid tight head and Kolisi is a competent 6.
Rassie of course is a great rugby brain. One of our best coaches.
The Boks are a very good team and Bok supporters can be proud of them.
Suck it up snowflakes let the wailing begin. Hope the Kiwis are not following all this.
What you Erasmus apologists don’t get it is the critics on this Board actually have higher expectations for the Boks. We are critical because we know they can do better….with a dominant scrum and lineout against any opponent in this WC, we should win the damn thing.
Ireland was a manifestation of how we can snatch defeat from opportunity. By having three dithering loosies on the park, none of them playing to the ball. By not having a reliable kicker. By having a reserve hooker who clearly is going to struggle with throws.
These shortfalls are all due to arrogant decisions made by our coach. We have a problem at center as well….but instead of kicking on with Esterhuizen and Moodie after they had outplayed the All Blacks we revert to the dead heads.
So for me Ireland was just a series of frustrations. Seeing the small lock Dud Toit easily cleaned off every ball…seeing him dumped for no metres and no offloads is a frustration,
And then our rugby press and fans buy all this nonsense. Even the frigging lights are back.
It’s a joke.
For all the praise that the pundits are pouring over PSDT. How many games now has he been held up over the line or lost the ball in contact.
We had 8 opportunities where we were on their 5 meter line and every time our so called big forwards just got stripped from the ball. Only when Manie lobbed the ball wide that we got to score a try.
This is exactly what irelands do, but much smarter. When they do lob the ball wide, they score, as in the Hansen try.
Jessie did good work, but then threw a 50/50 pass into Kolisi, can't blame for that, but then maybe Kolisi should have secure the ball rather than camping over Kriel. So maybe it was kolisi fault for not being the first man to the ruck.
Willemse came in when he should have marked his man, fact.
Dud looked great in the first 20 minutes, loved the power runs but then got caught behind the gain line and broke down the entire backline play.
Kriel is also guilty of trying to beat his man and not linking with his outside backs.
When Kolbe, Arendse and Willemse did get the ball out wide, the broke the line at will. But our follow up was really poor.
RG broke the line, but we had no propers support runner.
The Irish compress in the midfield and when they break the line they have options for short passes
Man, we made school boy errors.
Far 2nd kick should have gone over, he was practicing those before the game and got them over. Saw a video of it. Libbok missing an easy 3 pointer and 2 points is 5 points that we wasted.
Wales destroyed Australia because they had two seasoned kickers that just kept converting their goals. If we did that we would have won.
We need to be at 80% success not at 10%
The Boks were poor, but the Irish were far from their best. It apparent throughout that the Irish had another gear, whereas the Boks didn't. The Boks haven't looked able to elevate their play all season. When they got a few phases together we looked ragged and outclassed. The Boks had the kind of game they needed, making it a scrappy affair to rob the Irish of any rhythm. My precision was that the Irish wouldn't have the composure to ensure this; they proved me wrong. The Irish benefit not only from the result, but also the manner of victory in a game that can really scupper a good team in a knockout game. This is the very limit of what the Boks are able to do. That's the reality no one wants to accept.
We had 8 opportunities where we were on their 5 meter line and every time our so called big forwards just got stripped from the ball. Only when Manie lobbed the ball wide that we got to score a try.
Is the penny finally beginning to drop? The Boks don't have a power pack, and lose the battle on muscle on the line almost every game for several years now. The likes of Steph, Kolisi, Lood et al have never been physically dominant players, and have always committed more errors than positive contribution.
What you Erasmus apologists don’t get it is the critics on this Board actually have higher expectations for the Boks. We are critical because we know they can do better….with a dominant scrum and lineout against any opponent in this WC, we should win the damn thing.
LOL, I' ll never accuse the English of being arrogant again!
Poor sportsmanship to complain ad nauseum about your own team every single time they lose, never mind how good the opposition or close the margin...we even get petty complaints when winning...
I also felt we didn't pitch up 100% for the game...but that's BS...Ireland put us under immense pressure, while absorbing the pressure we exerted...good on them...not an epic performance by the Boks, but we were playing the best team on the planet and were in the game until the final whistle...most supporters would give up a lot to be able to say that about their teams...
Back in 2017 when we lost with cricket scores, I thought it was all over for my Bokke, we would never compete at the top again...I was wrong...Rassie and his team turned things around and built a team the whole country could be proud of...unfortunately there's always a few bitterballe who will never be satisfied...they manage to find something to complain about, even if we play well...well, sorry to be rude guys, you should all just bugger off and go and support another team...the Boks don't need the barrage of negativity...sies man!
There was nothing in it...it could have gone our way too...Ireland can have this one...I hope we can get past the quarters...we've got a good team, I hope we can make it count some...and maybe have our revenge if we can make it to the final.
Thanks, Stav. Much appreciated
I thought it was a really good game, thoroughly enjoyed it, apart from those stupid lights again
Draad makes some sense….he thought the Volk was done in 2017….then along came Sauron, he of the flashing lights, and bought 6 more years… so no more criticism.
Slight sticking point that the whole team pretty much retires after the WC… .but hey succession planning is just two words.
Duds forever!
Criticism is fine...it's not what some of you are doing...I can't stomach the constant negative BS...worse than Trad's hate posts.
Probably Deon Davids...who wasn't doing a bad job at all with the last season in SR at the Kings.
When you win say little
when you lose say less.
Can we handle the French loosies ?
Ideally, I'd still go for the Ackerman/Swys combo, Draad.
They turned everybody inside out with Skosan, Mapoe, Combrink, and a featherweight pack while giving Faf and Jantjies the freedom to dictate terms.
With some of the talent we have now, damn we could have a great team with the right coaches.
But it won't happen. It'll be Kolisi as captain and Davids/Stick in charge.
To coach the Boks you should have a proven track record of coaching and being successful with a top tier union side. That's m y opinion anyway.
