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Increase in levels of injuries

Started by Beeno17 REPLIES204 VIEWS· 29 Aug 2012, 11:25
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
29 Aug 2012, 11:25
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29 Aug 2012, 11:25#1

ExSupersport

I always like to say barring refs and injuries - some reasons re the injury side follow. (Some oaks think you can lose your entire squad but if you mention this as a mitigating factor re performance its an excuse!!)

Sanzar’s decision to lengthen the international rugby season has come at quite a cost and none more so than to player welfare, with injuries spiralling like never before.

While Vodacom Super Rugby and the new Castle Rugby Championship have introduced new formats in the past two years, the extra workload on players has seen both Australia and South Africa sit with ever increasing player injuries, as seasons are longer and more intense.

This has also played havoc with the traditional medical insurance for rugby players, with the current system now outdated and the pressures on insurance companies can have far-reaching consequences for the future of the game.

There is no doubt that in South Africa squads have become bigger, and especially now in the Currie Cup, and to a lesser extent Super Rugby, team composition has become younger, as older players either retire earlier or seek alternative employment in the cash-rich havens of Europe or Japan.

Yet, while this is an increasing concern in the game, there are no plans to counter the growing trend by the governing body Sanzar, and no plans to extend squads or change the season around.

Most of the focus of late has been on the sixth South African franchise and the decision to let the Kings in at the expense of the Lions, but the ever increasing travel and physical burden on the players calls for a rethink on player welfare, for the long-term good of the game.

If not then the current Sanzar Super Rugby and Rugby championship regime will eventually kill off all the good that is happening in rugby, and thin out playing reserves in future.

It might sound like a conspiracy theory (hey windpomp this one is for you), but there is real evidence that teams are encountering many more injuries, and this cannot be good for the game.

To say players are playing too much is hardly the answer, and not a theory supported by Brendan Venter, SA under-20 assistant coach, former Springbok and medical doctor, who is Saru’s medical representative in charge of injuries in the professional game.

MEDICAL INSURANCE

Venter believes the way the game has changed has warranted bigger and fitter players (please note muncher - BIGGER), and the structures simply haven’t kept up with the changes.

“There isn’t really a thing as fatigued rugby players; to say players burn out is not true. Players don’t train themselves to death,” Venter told supersport.com.

The number of games has gone up however, and it is logical to say that the risk of injuries has gone up with it. On top of it all, the modern game sees the ball in play more, and the intensity of higher class rugby is more as well, which also ups the risks for players. Add to that the fact that players are bigger and stronger than 10 years before and the collisions are bigger. It makes injuries an unfortunate reality in the modern game.”

“In my playing days we worked, so it was a rare occurrence to see players in the gym, but now everyone is bigger in the gym.”

Venter points out that that the magical number of games seems to have been decided on with Super Rugby and test rugby giving top players around 25-30 games a year -- “that means there are just over 20 weeks a year that players do not play matches.”

But still there are injuries, and that is becoming a concern in terms of professional rugby’s medical insurance.

“Look a lot of injuries is freak injuries, and they happen,” Venter explains. “But it is becoming an issue in terms of insurance. You must remember those values were pinned around 10 years ago, and the problem at the moment in rugby is that the risk has increased for injuries. The flip side is that medicine has advanced so much more that players have better treatment and modern medicine is able to do so much more for players than 20 years ago.

“But it doesn’t stop insurance companies from being under pressure if more players are getting injured. They have to stand in for the salaries of players who are injured and unfortunately rugby is a cruel game where a player can be worth R2.5-million one day and if he is injured, he is worthless to his union as he can’t play.”

All I can see is that the insurance will become more expensive for players, especially as the risks have changed.”

But unless Sanzar come up with a better solution that protects players more and reduces the injury rate, teams will continue to field younger combinations. And in the long run, SA Rugby may suffer a lot more.

Yes our physical style doesnt help in this respect.

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BrycyPro4,671 posts
29 Aug 2012, 12:55
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29 Aug 2012, 12:55#2

What are you saying Bean Brain? You guys getting soft or something.

How many hundreds of thousands of players has SA got to choose from ?? Stop making pitiful excuses my friend coz it's not a good look buddy.

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carpetmuncherPro1,667 posts
29 Aug 2012, 13:19
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29 Aug 2012, 13:19#3

excuses beeno al excuses. its common knowledge that rugby is a contact sport so being strong and well conditioned is key to survive but there is a fine line between just too bulky and as skill full as a school girl.

 

but you did not read that did you beeno. i reckon in your team duane be the first5/8 anyways

 

one the real info in the article i agree but then again it seems SA suffers more from this than the other nations. our direct game pattern is very combative and the human body can only take so much. one can just look at your stormers loverboys to see the forwards obsessed game plan is not easy on the body.

 

the only way this can be stopped is for sanzar to allow bigger squads and getting rid of the confrence system. the local games is more intense. there should also be better player mangement. (for no cups coetzee that means nothing).

 

tim noakes once told alot of us at a rugby seminar that in the a medical sense players should not be allowed to play over a certain set amount of games per year. after they have gone beyond there threshold they body starts to wear down and conditioning is less and less in short it leads to injury.

 

i do not think sanzar will change the stance the only thing that the coaches need to do is to have bigger squads and rotate players better.

 

this for me another point that we need to play a more open style of play. our current system/playing style is shortning our players lifespans

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oimateyPro1,870 posts
29 Aug 2012, 19:16
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29 Aug 2012, 19:16#4

Rugby players need a union with some balls if they are to get anything changed. SANZAR and SARU don't look out for the players interests. If they did, the schedules wouldn't be continually expanded. 

 

Less contact in practice, limited number of games in a season and smarter off-season and in-season workouts would lessen the injury risks. SA mentality is heavy, bulky lifting which tears the body down and increases injury risk. Better approach which also develops strength is high rep, lower weight and more of a focus on a technique at scrum and the breakdown instead of brute force.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Aug 2012, 12:05
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30 Aug 2012, 12:05#5

brycy we get injured more because we play more physical rugby. Also I would hazard a guess that our playing against ourselves more often in the Super 15 has not helped as we are playing more physical sides. We need to get back to playing the softer nz sides.

Getting the picture brycy!

As fo rou muncher h ecritizes me but then make sthe identical point I did . Isaid  "  Yes our physical style doesnt help in this respect" muchers - says "our current system/playing style is shortning our players lifespans".

Dude you are confused to put it politley!

By the way Noakes has been widely quote for those well publicised remarks. I doubt you heard them in person muncher let alone undestood them! Neither is it easy to believe you darkened the halls of the Cape rugby Academy!  Bwahahahahahahaha ou muncher names dropping for all his is worth!

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BrycyPro4,671 posts
30 Aug 2012, 12:24
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30 Aug 2012, 12:24#6

Bean Brain , you say you've been playing with yourselves too much...haha thats funny mate....Save some energy for the rugby coz otherwise you guys are gunna get smashed...

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Aug 2012, 15:59
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30 Aug 2012, 15:59#7

Brycy old top enjoy the sunshine while it lasts. abs are overvaluing themselves.

 

 

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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
30 Aug 2012, 18:28
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30 Aug 2012, 18:28#8

@ben10,.

ABs dont overvalue anything, even a team like the pumas, thats why were theyre most successful team in the history of rugby.

cant say the same for us fans though, but my guess is we will be enjoying the sun shine for a mighty long time, i mean 10 out of 16 TriNat titles, leading the IRC conference and we still havent had our puma steaks, No1 IRB ranking 4 times lomger then both eng and Boks combined, i cant help but feel were gonna be enjoying the sunshine for a loooooooooooong time still, LMAO, :P

 

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