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Incumbent side and next best

Started by Saffolk 9 REPLIES1,816 VIEWS· 16 May 2024, 22:39
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 May 2024, 22:39
#1
16 May 2024, 22:39#1
My incumbent side would be: 15. Willemse 14. Kolbe 13. Am 12. de Allende 11. Arendse 10. Pollard 9. Faf 1. Kitshoff 2. Marx 3. Malherbe 4. Etzebeth 5. RG Snyman 6. Kolisi 7. PSDT 8. Roos 16. Bongi 17. Ox 18. Wilco Louw 19. Lood 20. Kwagga 21. Williams 22. Libbok 23. Esterhuizen Next best side: 15. Gelant 14. Nkosi 13. Moodie 12. David Kriel 11. Fassi 10. Masuku 9. Papier 1. Gerhard Steenkamp 2. Dweba 3. Thomas du Toit 4. Jenkins 5. Ruben v Heerden 6. Emmanuel Tsituka 7. Elrigh Louw 8. Hanekom 16. Grobelaar 17. Mchunu 18. Sadie 19. Ruan Vermaak 20. JL du Preez 21. Nohamba 22. Sacha 23. Henco v Wyk
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 May 2024, 05:26
#2
17 May 2024, 05:26#2

Dave

It would be in teresting to see what Erasmus and Browne come  up with.  You are probably right about the loosies - especially 

Du Toit and Roos as  playes that have the ball sense and skills to participate in backline attacks.      

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
17 May 2024, 10:06
#3
17 May 2024, 10:06#3
Tell me how you can pick dumb Lood over a Ruben van heerden on the bench??!! and yet again Dud the ball killer at 12?? Same old Shit, different Day!!
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 May 2024, 12:24
#4
17 May 2024, 12:24#4

Roos is not an incumbent. He has hardly any test exposure…..he needs to show he can do it at the next level. But he does  have the ability to run with  the ball….something our ball carrier Dud Toit sorely lacks. He also helps out with Dud Toit’s woeful inability on the ground. I hope he makes it.

No more Lomp….a never has been.

And in the backs there is zero chance the incumbent side can execute a switch to a ball in hand game plan. Why? Because there there is road block…. cul de sac at 12. Put Dud in space and he will veer into the first defender he can find.

And please don’t tell us how Dud was in 67 world teams McCaw was in many more and you don’t rate him.

The other thought that comes to mind is how old this team is in the forwards. Eluckmiss has zero starters he introduced. That leaves us with a complete revamp before WC 2027.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 May 2024, 15:17
#5
17 May 2024, 15:17#5
Listen here Mpower given how fucking rugby ignorant you are any take on a player I take with a pinch of salt
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 May 2024, 15:24
#6
17 May 2024, 15:24#6
No Moz Roos is not the incumbent but our incumbent has retired - Roos is by far the next best It’s not the job of a lock turned blindside to compete on the ground - geez I thought you knew your rugby DA is the best 12 in the game damn right he starts
MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
17 May 2024, 15:31
#7
17 May 2024, 15:31#7
Stop dodging the Question…seriously how can you pick lood and not the Ruben you been so impressed with? His form, his age , everything counts in his favour….what happened to picking the young inform players for a change? This is the same 1 point thriller team. Not even a heathly mix of new inform players….dud is a dead end…..picking this team is not progress.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 May 2024, 17:17
#8
17 May 2024, 17:17#8
Because Lood is a class act a proven test star and is not done yet - simple really Like Matfield said - Lood is the best 5 lock in the game RG is better but Lood is one of the best Ruben v Heerden is the future, his turn comes soon Picking this team is spot on - it’s a WC winning side that happens to be number 1 in the game Get a fucking grip
MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
17 May 2024, 18:10
#9
17 May 2024, 18:10#9
No you need to get a grip…as you want to place our hope on has beens like Lood….he is not in that form at the moment and most probably never again. This incumbent team is not a progressive move to ensure future depth… some of those incumbents should be there yes, but the rest should be the inform players that were picked…the sooner you throw them in the action, the better for them and the team in a whole. Simple really.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
17 May 2024, 20:18
#10
17 May 2024, 20:18#10

Ruben ahead of lood any day for me ...can RG play 4 when Eben retires?

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