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Injury Prone Fat Albert in talks with Lions for SuperRugby

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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
27 Nov 2019, 18:58
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27 Nov 2019, 18:58#1


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  • Cape Town - Following hot on the heels of their signing of veteran prop Jannie du Plessis comes the news that the Lions are in talks with another former Springbok ahead of next year's Super Rugby season.

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    The Johannesburg franchise have been hard hit by a number of departures and injuries to key players and are looking to fill the voids across the park ahead of the tournament which starts with a trip to Argentina to face the Jaguares for new coach Ivan van Rooyen on Saturday, February 1.

    Apart from coach Swys de Bruin's exit, the Lions will also be without Sylvian Mahuza, Madosh Tambwe, Ruan Combrinck, Harold Vorster, Lionel Mapoe, Nic Groom, Kwagga Smith, James Venter, Stephan Lewies, Lourens Erasmus, Malcolm Marx, Robbie Coetzee and Jacobie Adriaanse - among others - in 2020.

    In addition, Hacjivah Dayimani will split his attention between Super Rugby and playing for the Blitzboks, while skipper Warren Whiteley has a long-term injury which has sidelined him from rugby for the foreseeable future.

    In a ray of potential positive news, the Lions on Wednesday confirmed they are in talks with former player and 43-Test Springbok, Willem Alberts.

    Alberts, now 35, began his career at the Lions before moving to the Sharks and then on to French Top 14 side Stade Francais.

    Stade Francais have endured a horrid start to their 2019/20 season, which saw the recent resignation of coach and director of rugby Heyneke Meyer.

    Stade Francais currently find themselves rock-bottom of the Top 14 standings, a full seven points adrift of the next lowest side - after just nine matches.

    Nicknamed the "Bone Collector" for his crunching tackles and strong carries, should Alberts put pen to paper it would be a huge boost for the Lions who finished a lowly ninth in this year's Super Rugby.

    - Compiled by Garrin Lambley

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Nov 2019, 19:54
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27 Nov 2019, 19:54#2

What are t hey going to use him for?  A loosie he is not - he is too pace-deficient for that position.   Another Stade Francais  discard - why the hell is the Lions going nuts?       

CH
ChippoPro3,372 posts
27 Nov 2019, 21:18
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27 Nov 2019, 21:18#3
What a wonderful acquisition. His strength, knowledge and leadership will be well used by the Lions.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Nov 2019, 02:23
#4
28 Nov 2019, 02:23#4

Willem could take on both Deysel twins and flick them away like twigs.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Nov 2019, 02:42
#5
28 Nov 2019, 02:42#5

Maybe - but a rugby loosie he never was  and never will be.  Rather a slow prop pretending to be a loosie and totally incapable of ball protection and recovery at breakdowns,    

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
28 Nov 2019, 02:48
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28 Nov 2019, 02:48#6
The Diesel twins are clones of Alberts, the same strengths and weaknesses.  
None of them can even touch their own toes, let alone compete on the floor.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
28 Nov 2019, 07:21
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28 Nov 2019, 07:21#7

It doesn't surprise me.

If you're going to bring a useless entity like Jannie aboard, then why not go all the way and include a few more hasbeens.

I wonder who will be next?

Thankfully Morne has already been taken.




SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
28 Nov 2019, 08:09
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28 Nov 2019, 08:09#8
Now if we're following rugby trends and how the benches are cleared early in the match I can't help but fear for the Lions.
Can they get subs for their subs? 'Cause we know that Jannie and Alberts don't have 30 mins in them. No way. Especially not how the Lions play. 
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
28 Nov 2019, 14:19
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28 Nov 2019, 14:19#9
The coaching may be so poor in 2020, that senior players are needed on the field to make decisions... It seems that everyone who starts as a physio wants to be a coach...
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
28 Nov 2019, 15:53
#10
28 Nov 2019, 15:53#10

That could be a good thing, SharkShit.

With old men like Alberts and Jannie on the pitch, we'll need all the physio assistance we can get.


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Nov 2019, 16:20
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28 Nov 2019, 16:20#11

I think we must accept that both the Lions and the Bulls engaged Mozart as t heir consultant for advice on contracting of the totally useless rugby geriatrics to display to younger players how not to play rugby,

He always and even recently advocate how good Morne Steyn was in the Barbarians game and Alberts and Jannie were always his favourites,  Wonder why he does not advise them to engage with Matfield to promote his return to play rugby - that would be Mozart's way if getting teams down to the level where the geriatrics can still play, but the teams will lose massively in games.      

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Nov 2019, 20:54
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28 Nov 2019, 20:54#12
What another pathetically desperate signing by the Lions The du Preez twins are far better than Alberts used to be. Watching the strength of JL du Preez playing for Sale just reminded me how much the Boks have missed out on these two freaks I’m a big fan of Rassie but excluding the du Preez twins is utter madness Both are bloody physical freaks with no less skill than the likes of PSDT or Vermeulen Travesty
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Nov 2019, 00:19
#13
29 Nov 2019, 00:19#13

The brains of the whole du Preez clan wouldn't amount to one satisfactory human brain. We have been hearing about the Deysel Twins since 2015.......so far these guys have been a big fat zero. And given loosies show young....I'm expecting zero.

Dumb, slow mentally, sans any model on how to make a difference....velociraptor hands.



MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Nov 2019, 00:26
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29 Nov 2019, 00:26#14

Shark could you please give us an image of the Deysel Twins with velociraptor hands.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Nov 2019, 01:52
#15
29 Nov 2019, 01:52#15
Bullshit, they have the physical edge over other players. In this day and age the more physical freaks you have in the side the better. There are not many out there we have Marx and de Allende we used to have Bismark as another. The du Preez twins are in the same league How the fuck do you conclude a player is dumb having never spoken to them - what bullshit As for speed, let me guess carthorse Vermeulen or a player like PSDT are faster - what utter crap Fact is Dan du Preez out played Vermeulen for the majority of the Super comp and that’s a fact My guess is that Rassie will wake up to their value pretty soon along with the likes of Jan Serfontein and JVR
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Nov 2019, 05:38
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29 Nov 2019, 05:38#16
Jan Serfontein is a slug with one move....an inside step. I know you predicted he would be better than JdV, but it's time to  let go of  that fantasy. Along with the notion that the Deysel twins are special. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Nov 2019, 10:00
#17
29 Nov 2019, 10:00#17

When it comes to selections  fitting of players into his very good game plan of Erasmus is paramount and of players do not fit in they will ultimately be phased out. - especially like happened to Mostert in the final phases of the WC - when he was used form the bench.   Another player was Esterhuizen.   Neither have any chance of getting into the Springbok squad in future,  

I am not sure about Serfontein - if he really was a consideration he would have been in the WC squad or called up when Kriel was to be replaced, ,    I also believe that in the case of the Du Preez tw ins the situation is not clear either,  The fact that they were not in the WC squad is an indication that they do not "fit in",   However, with Louw and Vermeulen out of contention for 2023 I think that the field is somewhat  open insofar as the no 8 position is concerned,          

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Dec 2019, 23:01
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01 Dec 2019, 23:01#18
Moz I actually proved to you that you were speaking shit about Serfontein only being able to beat players with an inside step when I pointed you to footage where he beat his man on the inside. Unfortunately Serfontein left SA early so threw in the towel on proving he was better than JDV. I for one believe he is far more gifted which he keeps proving playing for Montpellier. I understand Rassie wanted him on board for the WC but unfortunately he was recovering from an ankle op at the time. As for the du Preez twins they are by far our best young loosie options at 7 & 8 - no players come close. They will force their ways back into the Bok side through sheer weight of performances for the Sale Sharks much like Faf, Marcel Coetzee, Kolbe and Reinach did plying their tade up here
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Dec 2019, 17:47
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02 Dec 2019, 17:47#19

The fact is we need two new loosies to replace Louw and Vermeulen.  Vermeulen might try to stay on for another year or so, but he is no the player he used to be.   Then we may need another opensider.

I like that youngster Cloete of the Stormers - he is provably the best option for openside replacement since Kolisi never plays a full match anyway,  And then there is Van Staden who is a very hard worker as well.   Another guy that would do well at 8 is Streicher of the Maties,

The competition will be wide for inclusion in the loosie department and that is also a good thing,

I am not particularly worried about the competition for selection but think on the whole the squad is well covered bar about 6 or 7 players I think we will need  to include in the next WC squad.

The best advice is never listen to Mozart - he always claim players who are slower than others - are faster - others are stupid and a lot of other negatives as well.       

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
02 Dec 2019, 22:07
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02 Dec 2019, 22:07#20

sharkbok, unfortunately not all Springboks fall into your category of continues outstanding all round ability such as you definitely do not and never ever had,

Some Springboks other than you grow old but still have the desire to play and if a union wishes to pay for that old/fat/over the hill/desire that is great for the player.

So stop calling the ex-Boks old, fat, slow and find fault with them because they are not at your level of fitness, health and rugby skills.

I will keep checking the media for the Springbok schedule so that we can all sit back, watch and relax knowing that with you on the field victory is at hand.

How far are you off the 100 test CAP presentation water-boy?


sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
02 Dec 2019, 22:30
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02 Dec 2019, 22:30#21

@ArthurMartha John,

I take it you have never played rugby, and instead were a member of the school choir. I am yet to see any independent sensible thoughts from you - bar regurgitating a cliche from a news article.  

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