SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Feb 2024, 09:12#6
It is a reminder of why stats only play a part of the picture. Stats provide no context
Reading the stats leads to the impression Barrett was below average in the WC - reality tells us he was far better than that
The opposite is true of Tuilagi - stats give the impression he was great, reality tells us he was at best solid to good
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Feb 2024, 13:05#9
DA and Kriel are class acts as are Esterhuizen and Am . Not to mention Willemse and Moodie
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Feb 2024, 18:05#12
Bullshit Moz we know for a fact that DA almost always gets over the gainline it’s his biggest strength
It’s not his job to provide try assists, it’s his job to create phases by imposing himself physically
Chief try assists have come from Willie and Am and now Willemse
Surely Moz you know these obvious roles the players have
Just like we can expect Mostert to take his line outs and kick offs and make his tackles we can’t expect him to carry in traffic - it’s not his role
04 Feb 2024, 14:05#18
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BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Feb 2024, 17:29#20
Exactly Mike, mozzie has be wrong about a number of issue for a decade or more. Nothing can change the poor oaks mind. Not even wining World cups or winning the World Rugby player of the year award.It's all because everybody is wrong but mozzietard is tight. This is getting a bit scary. Mozz is not himself. Something is going on with him. The condition is worsening.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Feb 2024, 23:16#22
Moz there is one certainty in rugby and that is DA almost always carries defenders when he takes contact
This is a fact. He is the most effective carrying 12 in the game
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
05 Feb 2024, 18:39#25
So if you carry into contact and gain a metre you are breaching the advantage line
DA does that more effectively than any other 12 in the game and that’s purely down to his raw strength
It’s the very reason he had the highest percentage for dominant tackles in 2023. His strength sees him hit a player and drive them backwards more than any other back
There are certain givens when it comes to DA and that’s his raw strength that sees him carry defenders on attack and do the same to attackers on defence
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Feb 2024, 03:20#26
Runs/Metres
5/9 England5/1 New Zealand
Zero gain line success in the semi or the final in 10 carries .
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
06 Feb 2024, 20:16#30
Now you see why relying on stats alone is completely flawed
DA in the final ran 5 times and passed 5 times so given he does not offload that often it means clearly he never took contact
The stats say he only gained one metre but also beat one defender - if that is the case then beating the defender must have happened in the metre gained which in itself sounds suspicious
Against England 9m gain in 5 runs in traffic is respectable - on par with the kind of stat we would see from Eben
We know DA is employed to carry in traffic, it’s his thing
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Feb 2024, 16:52#35
5 runs with 5 passes according to the stats and one defender beaten - makes no sense
I guess the only solution is to watch the game again for a proper take as the stats tell us zero as per usual
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Feb 2024, 20:18#37
DA is better than Jordie one test does not define their careers. Nor do stats tell a story. Most of what happened to Jordie in that final was him getting absolutely smashed by PSDT
There is a reason DA is the longest serving 12 in the best side in the game and why he made team of the year in 2023
DA is a class act