FIXTURESNo upcoming fixtures — check back soon.
FORUM / RUGBY /  Is Carter going on a Sabbatical?

Is Carter going on a Sabbatical?

Started by clevermike12 REPLIES266 VIEWS· 17 Nov 2013, 06:40
SHAREXFACEBOOKWHATSAPPTELEGRAMREDDITLINKEDIN
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Nov 2013, 06:40
#1
17 Nov 2013, 06:40#1

First of all congratulations to the AB's for a well-deserved victory - the English with or without their propaganda machine remains below par.   They were not much against the Aussies and they were much less yesterday.

 

However, back to my question.  After repeated injuries in games this year - in Super 15 and in tests- Carter played for 10 minutes yesterday and was then subbed.   He hobbled off and it looked like an injury replacement to me.  

Is he going on a sabbatical over the next six months?  

BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
17 Nov 2013, 06:58
#2
17 Nov 2013, 06:58#2
 Yes he is...His best bet is to retire on 100!! How long has it been since we have seen this great actually finish a game?? He plays 20 mins and spends 6 weeks out in between games with injury.He even admitted that he used to go for a run every morning after a match to loosen up and clear his mind. He reckons he can no longer do that as the body doesnt allow and he is needing 2 to 3 days between matches. Why put yourself through this?? Why continue to play when after 20 mins of rugby, you spend the next 4 to 6 weeks in pain??
His body is clearly not holding up as well as Richie's. Opposition are taking note of that and attacking his channel hard out. France and England both did that with some decent success. Carter used to be respected to a point where opposition teams knew there was not much yardage to be gained through him..That is no longer the case and the man is getting hurt!
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
17 Nov 2013, 07:05
#3
17 Nov 2013, 07:05#3
 well I hope he retires. He is slowing this Team down 
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
17 Nov 2013, 07:44
#4
17 Nov 2013, 07:44#4
Let him have a sabbatical to get his body in shape an overcome the niggles.He is still the best flyhalf in the world and he will prove this in the big matches, as long as he is in the best condition.
New Zealand have the most depth at fly half of any country by far, so although he will be missed others can step up.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Nov 2013, 07:59
#5
17 Nov 2013, 07:59#5

 Cloudy

 

My problem   with great players like Carter is that they often enough overstay the stage where there performances are on the level where we are accustomed to and then start performing on a lower level - in the long run harming their reputation.   I have always thought of Carter a one of the greatest flyhalfs ever - But his recent performances shows a different Carter and is being on a lower level than it used to be - that is if he in fact can play in between injuries.

 

I know most New Zealanders will hope that he can stay on - but they have two good enough flyhalfs in Cruden and Barrett to replace him.  The latter are definitely not on par with Carter - both being good in attacking play, but a bit of a nightmare in defence.  Prefer Barrett to Cruden - the latter sometimes look bit problematic under pressure.

 

Bad news - what the heck an I going to do in fantasy rugby without Carter as a banker? 

 

 

 

 

 

PE
poi-ePro1,044 posts
17 Nov 2013, 09:18
#6
17 Nov 2013, 09:18#6
 Played for 10 minutes Mike? He was subbed after about 30 minutes...
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
17 Nov 2013, 13:08
#7
17 Nov 2013, 13:08#7
From memory he played about 25 mins. Glad he got to start in twickers for his 100 cap & that we won . They will assess Carter & figure out what is best for him & the team . Doubt he can make it to the RWC , if he cannot it would be a shame that he is such a great player but one who never played in the winning final.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Nov 2013, 14:08
#8
17 Nov 2013, 14:08#8

We had a problem in SA - they were always showing two tests here on different channels all the time and although I watched in themmain the AB game - I at times switched to the second channel to get the scores there - especially in view of my Superbru predictions.  That is why I did not really look at times in the AB match.  Busy too much looking at the game itself.   What I did thought was a shorter playing period was in fact 25 minutes. 

 

Talking of Superbru - I so far had only 1 out of 9 predictions wrong - I had Canada beating Romania - that is where I went wrong.   My final prediction is on the Scotland- SA match - where I predicted a win by 6 points by the Springboks.   Have the jitters about that one though - because of Meyer's selections. 

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
17 Nov 2013, 14:21
#9
17 Nov 2013, 14:21#9
 Clevermike: yeah you are now top of the leaderboard for SuperBru. Well done mate.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Nov 2013, 15:02
#10
17 Nov 2013, 15:02#10
Well ou maaaikie that explains some of your comments. hakwa he is not theonly one slowing the team down. a lot of old oaks who are past ity.Consider it a miracle of sorts the bas werent beaten this year as they certainly deserved top be.
Old man mcaaaw, Wooodcock, mealamu, carter, conrad, nonu are all creaking at the joints and there are no better players to replace them otherwise they would have I guess.Dr Beeno diagnosing the abs big problems 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Nov 2013, 15:04
#11
17 Nov 2013, 15:04#11
 Ho w many folk is ou maaaikie he leading JW - this all sounds a bit implausible to me!
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
17 Nov 2013, 15:24
#12
17 Nov 2013, 15:24#12
 Beeno, I hear Bakkies is replacing Morne at 10 LOL
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Nov 2013, 17:08
#13
17 Nov 2013, 17:08#13

Beeno

 

He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones.   There is no worse a collection of old has beens in the AB's team than there are in the Springbok team.   I say the Springboks are even worse in that regard.

 

Meyer has gone dilly by going for players 0f thirty or well pass it and then include in his squad a list of 29 year olds that would be 30 soon.   Most of them are not even up to the standard of the younger players anymore - that s if they were ever up to standard.

 

The rugby geriatrics are all of Kirchner, Fourie, Morne Steyn, Du Preez, Pienaar, Alberts, Bakkies, Jannie du Plessis, Steenkamp.   The over 30's who produce the goods are only De Villiers and Habana.   Problem is the above were all part of the 2010 and 2011 Springbok team that performed like Sh!t those years.   Two years on and they could only be regarded as worst than they were then.   You cannot build a tam around a core of losers.   If you want to build a team start with experienced players who have proved themselves in the recent past - not those who are in the team on reputation only.

 

I for one am not going to keep pointing fingers at the AB's when we have to actually point fingers at the rubbish selections of Meyer.   I am ready to make detailed noted of the game and will soon enough tell you who buggered up badly today and who in fact earned their living by decent performances.

 

        .

— END OF THREAD —

More from Rugby

More news