Fourie has been our best 13 since Gerber and there is no doubting he is a good player. He and Jean were a great pair. However, the operative word is WERE.......their time is done and we need to move on.
JJ has been great this year, culminating in an outstanding performance against NZ in the last test, where he showed just what he can do with ball in hand. His performance at 13 with ball in hand in that match has not been witnessed since Gerber graced our fields.
JJ has showed us exactly what a modern test 13 requires to succeed........he needs the pace of a wing and great feet to step. Add to that a frame of around the 100kg mark.........speed, agility and physicality.........Fourie only has the physicality - and therein lies the difference. Fourie is renowned a great defensive organiser, Moz will say that, that is all the hand flapping he does. Fourie also has test experience on his side.
He fits perfectly into Meyers conservative gameplan, with a piss poor combo of du Preez, Morne, Jean and Fourie looking to set our world alight and run rip international defences apart - I cant bloody wait!!
If the Boks want an attacking edge, they need the likes of Willie, JJ, Serfontein and Goosen on board.......they are our best attacking options to ignite the likes of Habana and JP.
JJ has far more attacking options at his disposal than Fourie has ever had......Fourie could never match his speed and feet. JJ is our best 13 option since Gerber, he is better 9 tests in than Mulder, Joubert, Fleck, Snyman and Fourie ever were.
For the record, JJ has only started 9 tests.......one can hardly count his 10 min on the wing last year when he received no ball.
Dave's Bok backline:
9 Hougaard
10 Jantjies
11 Rhule
12 Mnisi
13 Engelbrecht
14 Volmink
15 Le Roux
Please guys, stop reading his posts..You will be dumber for it!
Fourie has nothing to prove when it comes to JJ. Forget stats, just look at them play. JJ loses us tests, Fourie has been part of some of the Boks best years. He adds a lot more in any situation. If SA is under pressure, JJ will be a non entity. Fourie will stand up! You cant compare the two..One is a club player and the other a decorated Springbok!
VBugger
The list for dumpoing of poor players are -
1 Morne Steyn
2 Morne Steyn
3 Morne Steyn
4 Willem Alberts
5 Willem Alberts
6 Willem Alberts
7 Zane Kirchner
8 Gurthro Steenkamp
9 Gurthro Steenkamp
10 Morne Steyn
11 Willem Alberts
After then we can look who else should go.
Mozart
We have lost the plot again - and this time we lost it big time. The backline is basically the same backline the Springboks utilized in the years 2010 and 2011 - years where we in internationals from a backline attacking perspective were sub-par in scoring tries.
The tries scored by backline players were individualistic - the backline as a whole was dead as a doornail insofar as that aspect of the game was concerned.
So back to the future again with the evident indicator being that we are not improving - we are stagnant expecting better results than in the past
Mozart
I am going to start a thread about this one - since you have gone off your trolley again and it is time to look at he various players Meyer now his in his backline and look a bit at their history and what they are bound to produce in future. Easy to blame the coach only - and not the players involved. Wild and untested statements do not work out - but that is the case with you when you try and divert attention away from very real problems. In this case Kirchner is not the topic - he is not in the team on Saturday - so that diversion by you would not work out.
