Is Marcel really 112 kgs?

 Lions propsSchalk Van Der Merwe = 105kgsJulian Redelinghuys = 110kgsRuan Dreyer = 110kgs
Schalk and Julian are the first choice props for the Lions.

Nonetheless, Owen Franks and  Jannie du Plessis are 120kg types. That means Marcel is giving up 20lbs. It scarcely seems possible or sustainable. .

 Mozart
Which Marcel are you talking about here?   Certainly not Marcel van der Merwe.  Wikipedia gives his weight as 121 kgs.  SA Rugby in his profile gave it as 128 kgs.  Where did you find the 112 kgs myth - is this again one of your misleading posts to create doubts/false impressions  in the mind of people?
If there is a weight problem among the forwards - it is with Matfield.  In his book he gave his playing weight as 106 kgs - making him a real stringbean.  However his profile and weight given before matches indicates 110 kgs.  That means he is lighter than all other locks between 10 and 20 kgs - depending on which weight you take as his real weight .  Now that is a problem - if there is any.       

The reference is given in the string opening post old chop. Just click on it and watch the official Bulls information as they introduce the players. And then wipe the egg off your face.

Mozart 
Why should the Bulls website - rarely ever updated in any event -   be correct and the official SA website be wrong?    Wikipedia is linked to that site and is updated regularly in liaison with the official website.    You should check info before spalssing it all over this site - it may save you embarrassment.  
Caught out gain writing bullshit on this site again and  now running for cover.   Sorry - you are in the US and I cannot send you additional eggs from  here - there certainly is not enough in the US to cover the BS you wrote here.      
Why not respond to  Matfield being way under acceptable weight for a lock and tr y and save some face?   

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Recovery from a knee operation prevented Van der Merwe from contributing to the Vodacom Bulls 2013 campaign, but his efforts in the Absa Currie Cup later in the season made up for lost time.
The former Cheetahs prop has great ball carrying ability and scores tries regularly. His real value will be in the set-pieces with his ability to pack both sides of the scrum and strong support play in the drive.
Competition for a starting berth amongst the props will keep all of them on their toes and his all-round game might just give Van der Merwe the edge over the other contenders.

 

 

 

OOPSIE....clearly written after the 2013 season. This Bulls information seems pretty detailed ....and Dave you are always telling me the club is the best source. You guys are smoking something if you think he weighs 128kgs.  

 Mozart
Are you bloody dim.   The official SA Rugby site gives his weight as 128 kgs.   That is what he weighs - not some quote from a rugby writer who probably got his weight wrong in any event by typing 112 and not 121 as his weight.  The latter is the weight given by Wikipedia.  
I know you see 20% of what goes on on a rugby field - but if you cannot see that Van der Merwe cannot possibly weigh 112 kgs - I will have to accept that you really only see 10%.
So Mozart is right and the official SA rugby website is wrong.  Bullshit baffles brains in this case.
  

So the Bulls site is wrong and the numbers quoted on the screen are 16 kgs too light.....look at the video clip retard.

Bulls weight is before a lekker braai, Wikipedia is after that lekker braai, official SA Rugby site is an inflated number by the same government employee in charge of estimating the demands on the power grid

 Sure Mozart
Shall we look again at the number of scrum penalties Jannie gives away per game and then discuss this  fairy tale again.  Jannie used to be very solid - but at 31 he is getting in a rugby sense "over the hill" - so think about that one for a while as well.     

All Jannie needs is some proper management and rotation - a little Owen Franks treatment. He has played a lot of rugby in the past couple years - too much no matter what your age. Look at the struggles of our other young "tightheads" Malherbe and Oosthuizen to even stay match fit under a lesser load.

Exactly...the man is a rock and a fabulous chara cter. 

Ah so the SA rugby site is wrong, but more to the point - one only needs to look at him to realise he is NOT 112kg - good one Moz  

 Saffex
Mozart lives on cloud 9 in a dream world of his own.   He enver givs up - this story about Marcel being 112 kgs will stick with him like glue.  Two years from now - he would still be repeating it - whether it is tripe or not.     

At 6'2 " with an average frame for a prop he is hardly huge. My guess is he is about 115 kgs with a lot of the usual weight add on hype. Can he really scrum though....time will tell whether he is more effective than your last tighthead pick... Coenie.

"No he is huge" hahaha...well I guess that clinches it.  

 Mozart
Is kak praat 'n saak van geloof by jou?

 You're argument says it all, pathetic and lowly.

Speechless in English the Oom tries his luck in the taal. But it's not the language that's the issue....its the thought process.  

 A few years ago there was an argument about Victor Matfield's weight becauseof conflicting info on different websites. Someone went onto Twitter and asked him in person. He responded and confirmed his weight, at the times, as 107kg.

I was involved in an argument about whether or not Habana ever played scrumhalf. I went onto  Twitter and asked  him. His reply:

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My suggestion. Someone needs to get onto Twitter and ask the guy what his real weight is.

What would be really helpful would is if he started the game, then the pre-match stats on each player in the line up would help massively in clearing the air!
I would ask him on Twitter but then there would be traces of my life left to you bunch of losers, and seeing how you lot treated Dave (When personal info was leaked) makes me think I'd rather keep myself to myself.

Good idea Cheesy. So check the pre match stats in the clip I posted at the top of the string. It's not hard, just use your thumb and click on the link. Then apologize.  

Mozfart, I'll take you're evidence on board when you take all the rest of the evidence on board.

 Dan Coles = 115kgJuan Figallo = 112kgBeast = 116kgJoe Marler = 115kgThomas Domingo = 112kgs
All test quality props that excel, especially Juan Figallo who is one of the best props out there IMO.

 So Matfield admits he weighs 107 kgs - that was the figure in his book as well.  Yet in the pre-match team photos of players he is given as weighing 110 kgs.  Those figures can be wrong insofar as weight issues are concerned.
Now lets look at the data:-
Marcel van der Merwe
SA Rugby Officiakl website   :   128 kgsWikipedia                          :   121 kgsPre-match info                  :   112 kgs.
Victor Matfield
 SA Rugby Official website    :   110 kgsWikipedia                          :   112 kgsPre-match info                  :   110 kgs.
Matfioeld himself stated repeatedly he weighs 107 kgs - both in his books and in the twitter response as mentioned above.
Now lets look at the weights of the other Props and locks:-
Props
Jannie du Plessis   =   121 kgsFrans Malherbe     =   123 kgsCoeni Oosthuizzen  =  127 kgsBeast                   =  115 kgsBen Franks            =  120 kgsOwen Franks         =  120 kgsJames Slipper        =  117 kgs
Locks   
Victor Matfield      =    107 kgsLood de Jager       =    123 kgsEben Etzebeth      =    118 kgsP-S du Toit           =   118 kgsBrodie Retallick      =    121 kgsSam Whitelock       =   114 kgsTomas Lavanini      =   130 kgs
It is clear that the weight of props nowadays tends to be between 115 and 130 kgs.  What it will be in future is questionable - the two SA Under 20 props in the recent WC series were both over 130 kgs
As to locks the more or less general situation is that the weight of locks are in the range between 114 and 124 kgs - with Lavanini way beyond that figure.  
Even an 18 year old Scherlerling of the Under 20 WC weighs in at 108 kgs and is likely to be 118 kgs at 21.  The future looks like players in general being between 115 and 125 kgs.  
According to his own admission Matfield weighs in at 107 kgs.  That is more or less what a loosie weighs nowadays and is far below the general physical characteristics of present lock forwards.   
Can a light weight player still make the grade in an environment where physical strength is a seri ous consideration - I doubt it very, very much.  

 
 

Oh I think you have taken my evidence on board Cheesy. That's why you followed your little hissyfit with a post defending smaller props. How transparent can you be....moron.
 

 Really, because my first post was the same. I just backed it up with more evidence that you don't know what you're talking about. Hell, you don't even watch the full 80 minutes of a rugby match so you are most definitely clueless. Geez , you're a weasel.

Sure Cheezy...you never looked.....hahaha. But based on his scrumming today Marcel might be 85 kegs. Drilled by a dominated pack. Marcel's flop against the Lions is no fluke. Neither Coenie nor Marcel can scrum...period.