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Is Robert Dupreez a pub standard rugby coach?

Started by sharkbok18 REPLIES909 VIEWS· 23 Mar 2018, 15:55
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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,256 posts
23 Mar 2018, 15:55
#1
23 Mar 2018, 15:55#1

I am not sure, but he is certainly not a Super rugby standard coach. Does he have a game plan, do the players know what this is? 

At this stage, the Sharks will only be competitive in SA, and probably against the weaker opposition. The Sharks are the favorites to finish bottom of the SA log and contenders for 15th place overall. Even Gary Gold is looking a better option. 



KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
23 Mar 2018, 16:07
#2
23 Mar 2018, 16:07#2

I would say, he is probably as good a under 5 coach, especially since he has his 3 boys playing for him. How poor war Robert Du Preez jr. 

Time to get some proper coaches back in SA. We need Jake, Ackerman, Meyer etc. They are way better than the current crop

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
23 Mar 2018, 16:09
#3
23 Mar 2018, 16:09#3

It's a strange one. They looked like they were building something good last year. 

Suddenly not so much. 

I was looking forward to watching them this year. Yeah, I know!


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Mar 2018, 16:19
#4
23 Mar 2018, 16:19#4
Sad to see....their petulant firing of White has totally backfired.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,256 posts
23 Mar 2018, 16:38
#5
23 Mar 2018, 16:38#5
John Mitchells Bulls have a similar record to the Sharks this season so far, but they have played a much better brand of rugby. They are evolving their game, and there seems to be a game plan. The Noel Marais era was BS.
The Bulls should continue to improve- especially if they can buy some more players. 
Dick Muir seemed to be a decent coach, and almost won SuperRugby in the 2007 final- other than a piece of Habana magic. I think he carried many of the responsibilities from Pdivvy.

If he is backline coach, perhaps best to make Dupreez forwards coach, with Muir head coach.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Mar 2018, 16:48
#6
23 Mar 2018, 16:48#6

Fact is that rot started by White has not been recovered as yet,   They should never have fired Plumtree and since then it was going downhill faster and faster.

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
23 Mar 2018, 18:03
#7
23 Mar 2018, 18:03#7

The biggest mistake we make is watching the currie cup and the same coaches and expecting a vast improvement in super rugby. 


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Mar 2018, 18:24
#8
23 Mar 2018, 18:24#8
Oh sure it'sJakes fault.....LMAOFY!
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Mar 2018, 03:26
#9
24 Mar 2018, 03:26#9

Mozart

One can only expect dementia from you.   In 2012 under Plumtree the Sharks - after a mad travelling schedule had to play the Chiefs in the Super Rugby FINAL .  In 2013 the Sharks was hit by the worst injury nightmare ever - during Super Rugby they at one stage had only 19 of their 36 member squad available and even had to borrow players from the Lions to field full matchday teams - and Smit went ballistic.   He fired Plumtree  and hired White to take over.  

White by luck more than anything else managed to top the SA Conference log and played the Highlanders - a team that beats them by a wide margin in Durban in the round-robin stage of the tournament - in the play-offs and  by a miracle won the game by 2 points.   They then travelled to NZ to play the Crusaders in the SEMI-FINAL, which match thy lost by a  WIDE MARDIN.

White was fired at the end of the season and later on the same process resulted after he went to Montpellier to coach that team.   So why is he now the saviour of rugby of Sharks Rugby - he is not and although various reasons for both dismissals were given  two stood out - his personal relationship with players and management.   He had favourites who could bugger up endlessly and  the other players got blamed for mistakes in matches.   In contrast  Plumtree went to the Irish as national forward coach and from there to the Hurricanes in the same capacity.  He will take over the Head Coach role of the Hurricanes next year.   So Plumtree showed further career progress and White went backwards in his own career. 

So Smith made a real mistake in firing Plumtree and appointing White - he publicly admit afterwards he made a mistake,    Since White did worse in 2014  than Plumtree  did in 2012 and the Sharks went further backwards subsequently the rot can be t raced back to starting with White's appointment  - end of story.   And I LMAO.        

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Mar 2018, 03:31
#10
24 Mar 2018, 03:31#10
They lost the match in NZ in part because dumbass fans like you were howling for Lambie at flyhalf vs Frans who had got them there...and for once he capitulated. Plumtree isn't fit to fetch Jake's beer.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Mar 2018, 03:35
#11
24 Mar 2018, 03:35#11

Fat Fransie at flyhalf was a failure and one of he reasons why White got fired.  Fransie caused havoc in the team in 2014 and was supported all out by White causing serious divisdions in the squad.  

Montpellier also realized that Steyn is a failure and they contracted Serfontein and now Goosen to take over at 10 and 12.

Only a fool will think Fransie is a flyhalf - Plumtree said he is no center as well - so in this case I LMAF - you are indeed an ignorant individual when it comes to rugby knowledge.  

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
24 Mar 2018, 03:36
#12
24 Mar 2018, 03:36#12

Yes he is. My doubts about him started after last week's game but I held back and gave him the benefit after his comment about being unsure why the players had under-performed. After this weekend's game it's clear the Sharks are a shambles and the problem lies at his feet. There is no shape or pattern of play to a directionless outfit.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Mar 2018, 03:50
#13
24 Mar 2018, 03:50#13

Denny

I agree with you here and the worst example of sub-standard performance is his own son at flyhalf.  Young Robert showed some positive signs playing for the Stormers and Barbarians last year -  this year playing for the Sharks he went backwards at jet speed.

I do not think Du Preez will last much longer at the Sharks but their is nobody else in SA to take over.   I think a guy like Deans would be better - but would any foreign coach be prepared  to come to SA and be forced to accept ANC policy as the basis for team selection ?  

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Mar 2018, 04:22
#14
24 Mar 2018, 04:22#14
Wrong again.......in 2014 with Lambie at 10 the Sharks were 3 wins /2 losses, with Zeilinga and Swiel they were 2wins and 3 losses. With Frans at 10 the Sharks were 6wins/2 losses....including away wins over the Rebels, Blues and the Saders with 13men.....and a knockout win against the Highlanders. They were a much better team withFrans at 10.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Mar 2018, 07:58
#15
24 Mar 2018, 07:58#15

Meaningless  junk again. and go back and see the long strings on  Fat Fransie's actual personal stats in 2014.   It is, stupedo, the actual performance of the individual and not the team results that counts in this case.  

The stats indicated that the team won games despite Fat Fransie's determined efforts to lose the games.    

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Mar 2018, 07:58
#16
24 Mar 2018, 07:58#16

Meaningless  junk again. and go back and see the long strings on  Fat Fransie's actual personal stats in 2014.   It is, stupedo, the actual performance of the individual and not the team results that counts in this case.  

The stats indicated that the team won games despite Fat Fransie's determined efforts to lose the games.    

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Mar 2018, 18:10
#17
24 Mar 2018, 18:10#17
Oh sure Tokkie he was terrible.....except he got the Man of the Match award at 10 in the epic Sharks 13 man win against the Crudaders in Christchurch: LEATHERMAN SA PLAYER OF THE MATCH Every Sharks player, except Jean Deysel, deserves this award, but we've got to pick one. After a poor performance against the Brumbies last week, Frans Steyn returned to top form with an excellent goal-kicking performance and a strong break that resulted in S'bura Sithole's try. Schplottt you old liar, stay down to avoid further embarrassment.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Mar 2018, 19:19
#18
24 Mar 2018, 19:19#18

Getting rid of Jake set back the sharks years. Rugby 101 failures like ou maaaaiki e still haven't twigged. 

Gutless performance by Sharks. They are better than they are playing.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Mar 2018, 20:56
#19
24 Mar 2018, 20:56#19

The game where Steyn got the MOM was in fact really won by Reinach.  Do leep om dreaming of the useless Smith as flyhalf.  

The brainwashed simpleton must really be as follows:-

"Appointing Jake set back the sharks years" 

Proof - Jake was effectively fired for good reasons by both the Sharks and Montpellier

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