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Is rugby now a hooligans’ game played by hooligans?; By Charlie Mackay (The Roar)

Started by Just_win9 REPLIES221 VIEWS· 26 May 2014, 23:58
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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 May 2014, 23:58
#1
26 May 2014, 23:58#1

As a rugby supporter, the first catch phrase I learnt was “rugby union is a hooligans’ game played by gentlemen”.

The second was that “the referee is a valuable commodity as without them, we don’t have a game”.

Since I last played rugby until I took up the whistle in 2008, I don’t quite know how that attitude has changed.

Yes, there have been plenty of slogans, including this video from New Zealand from those who truly understand what a difficult job volunteer referees have, and the sacrifices they make to do what they do week-in and week-out. It is pleasing to have junior players give three cheers for the ref at the end of the game (it doesn’t have to be done but it is respectful nonetheless).

What has me worried is the spate of incidents in recent history, including:

Then, this weekend, a player has allegedly headbutted a referee, used the referee’s shirt to wipe the blood from his face, then king-hit an opposition player as he head from the field after being duly red carded.

At the end of the day, the referees are out there to enjoy the game from the best position available. We don’t go out there to ‘ruin’ anyone’s game, in fact, it is just the opposite. We want to see a good game of rugby. We want to see players enjoying the game we love too.

95 per cent of us probably make a loss financially when we referee. Yes we make mistakes (we are human after all!), but it often affects us as much as you if we do affect the outcome of the game. We do the best we can with the resources we have. We referee because we love our hooligan game played by gentlemen.

If you would like to referee (or if you think you can do a better job than the bloke or lass running around every weekend), by all means, sign up! It isn’t as easy as it looks!

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 May 2014, 00:00
#2
27 May 2014, 00:00#2
 Yup, it's not easy being a ref. Everyone has opinions but the ref is the one who has to make the call & take the flack.
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
27 May 2014, 00:17
#3
27 May 2014, 00:17#3
 It's fine stating when a referee is wrong, but getting worked up over it is useless. No point crying over spilt milk, the referee can't retract his decision once it's final even if he is wrong. After a game is done, I make sure I shake the refs hand before anyone else's . 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 May 2014, 00:22
#4
27 May 2014, 00:22#4
 Shezza: we all made a point of shaking the refs hand in my day to mate. Hopefully things stay under control. 
We see more requests for TMO help now as refs are under more pressure to get the call right they are less confident in what they see. It makes sense but slows the game down & means we can't get too excited until the TMO is consulted & finally the ref makes his call. That's the price we all are paying.
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
27 May 2014, 00:33
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27 May 2014, 00:33#5
 Being a scrummie does help as he is close by, if I was a winger I very much doubt I would shake the refs hand if he was on the otherside of the pitch! 
I'm pretty sure I heard tell of two on pitch refs being trailed, I think it was in SA as well.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 May 2014, 00:38
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27 May 2014, 00:38#6
 Cry me a river. They have the video evidence and still get it wrong - willfully. Fire every bent ref and bent TMO official I say. They are a blight on the game. 
I dont mind paying a price to get the right decision. Any improvements on the decisions made is to be welcomed. They only oaks not wanting the right decision are bent kbbs!!!

No ref must come crying on my shoulder because he gets flack for repeated mistakes favouring one side. 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 May 2014, 00:48
#7
27 May 2014, 00:48#7
Beeno: check your glasses mate I think there is something wrong with the lenses, one sees too rosy (SA players are perfect) & one seems blue (the reality lens - seldom used though, lol). But at least you are always smiling.
Surely you can't condone beating the refs up That's when things are really out of hand.
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
27 May 2014, 01:41
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27 May 2014, 01:41#8

The players are not hooligans but merely gentlemen playing a damn hard game against crooked refs ( the real villians...not hooligans but as much deficient because lost decency).

 

Seems to be that soccer has a forthcoming bed fellow.

 

The players themselves give a good account of themselves under very irritating rules, refs, administrations and political stances.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 May 2014, 02:01
#9
27 May 2014, 02:01#9
Seb: I'm not convinced that there are so many "bent refs". My father was always screaming about crooked refs back in the early 60s up until today but it usually seemed like sour grapes to me. 
On player behavior I like the old quote:
“Football is a gentleman’s game played by ruffians; rugby is a ruffian’s game played by gentlemen”

Maybe the line of behavior between the two games has blurred but JDV sets a fine example with his hard play but he also sets an example & conducts himself well on the field and in public.
Even if we disagree with a refs calls & rules (which make it really hard in some areas of the game (scrum, breakdown,etc.) I can't see that as justification for beating up a ref.
SA has it worse from what I have read on this site, the administration of the game is also a big frustration factor.
Anyway, glad we get our fair share of truly exciting games to watch it makes all the rest tolerable. Otherwise why bother?
FO
ForeverArizonaClub Pro580 posts
27 May 2014, 03:15
#10
27 May 2014, 03:15#10
 Just_Wanked,you wouldn't know what a bent ref looks like if one hit you in the face.
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