CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Sept 2014, 18:18#2
Mozart
You are wizard - how do you, judge the paste of players when watching a rugby game on TV? It is always a mystery to me h ow you come up with definitive findings on players with regard to pace. So please enlighten me.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Sept 2014, 18:28#4
Ja well in this case they literally were running right next to each other after Kuridrani made his break....about on the halfway line. ACs burst of acceleration took him clear of Steppie and he then extended that lead all the way to the try line.
It was as even a race as you will ever see on a rugby field...except of course AC had the ball and had to take the pass.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Sept 2014, 18:50#6
I will have a look at that incident again - but I think Serfomtein was aiming to tackle Kuridrani and was some way (at least four paces away Ashley-Cooper - when the latter got the ball. Will check it and see whether I agree.
DBDbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
30 Sept 2014, 19:56#8
Obviously Coenie is faster than Os is now. 1995 Os is a different story though.

sharkbok
Captain23,294 posts

sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
30 Sept 2014, 21:47#10
Old man Jean is faster than young Serfontein.
Jean got two tries from being in the right place at the right time. This is due to being able to read the game,and also having the speed to run into the space.
The first try he looped around to run into space to dive over the line= good centre play.
On his second try, Matfield was back playing inside centre with Jean at outside centre.WTF was Serfontein?
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
30 Sept 2014, 22:00#11
Sharktwat stop speaking utter shit you idiot. Jeans tries had stuff all to do with skill or speed. You could have scored those tries and that says it all.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Sept 2014, 22:19#12
Sharkbok
As far as I could recollect Serfontein carried the ball and was still in the resultant maul when it came out and went to Matfield and De Villiers.
In the case of both tries De Villiers was in space and finished off well. he wa snowhere to eb seen creating anything during the whole match. I have no problem with De Villiers - but he really must buck up his performances.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
30 Sept 2014, 22:21#13
Jean is past it as are Jannie, Matfield and Bakkies
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Oct 2014, 01:11#14
OOm Serfontein was running shoulder to shoulder with AC at the half way. He never had any intentions about Kuridrani, man you do come up with garbage. What's at issue here is how he got dropped by AC, not the fastest back out there....but he made Steppie look like a stone.
01 Oct 2014, 01:30#15
Who is better looking ? These are the questions we need answers to !! :0
TTThe_Truth
Club Pro471 posts
TTThe_TruthClub Pro471 posts
01 Oct 2014, 13:42#16
Serfontein's pace is not that bad. He is faster than Olivier for sure. He was also making up a bit of ground on Cooper (too slow to prevent a score), but slowed down further when Hougaard came across in cover defence. I wouldn't try to judge his pace on that video clip.
Serfonteins problem is more a general South African problem, where instead of changing the line wider to minimise contact, they change the line inwards to try force contact. If SA players could only learn to go that half step wider, we'd see more offloads and a faster paced game.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Oct 2014, 16:58#17
Well Truth I completely agree with your second point. Every inside centre in RSA steps inside....which given the body angles means almost all offloads go inside.
As for Steppie...go back further in the clip, you will see he literally changes his line to avoid bumping into AC. They were dead even...so there are only two choices, he reacted slowly or he got gassed. I think it's a bit of both.