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Is there a worse centre combination than Jessica and Dud?

Started by Mozart23 REPLIES1,097 VIEWS· 03 Sept 2022, 18:56
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Sept 2022, 18:56
#1
03 Sept 2022, 18:56#1

….surely these are the two most clueless robots to ever wear the Bok jersey at 12 and 13.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
03 Sept 2022, 19:10
#2
03 Sept 2022, 19:10#2

To be fair, DA did well in the Mostert try by holding the ball up just long enough for the inside defender to shift onto him even though McReight had him covered from behind. That opened it up wide. He did exactly what you would want your 12 to do in that situation, but why he manages that kind of perfectly executed basics only about once a season is anybody's guess. His first 30 minutes in particular was a shit show today, probably blew 2 or 3 good chances all on his own in that period.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Sept 2022, 19:10
#3
03 Sept 2022, 19:10#3

Mozart

Reading your comments it is clear that you can be depended upon to come up with your constant unchanged BS.   De Allende had an excellent game today - together with Willemse  he was outstanding and that is a fact.

There was a vast difference in backline performance today and  both attack and defense was top class.   There is one question mark which is problematic - how much does Pollard's poor form at flyhalf effecting the performance of the backline?    But you would not eb able to answer that one - it is way beyond your comprehension to deal with factual issues.    

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
03 Sept 2022, 19:39
#4
03 Sept 2022, 19:39#4

DDA is not inform and mostly without a clue, kicked good possession away today....besides the good pass mentioned, he hangs on to long to the ball rather than pass....Kriel,s defence and general play is not good at all, so don't start him again....a playmaker like Esterhuizen or Willemse is needed in the 12 channel.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Sept 2022, 19:39
#5
03 Sept 2022, 19:39#5
Moz as clueless as ever - DA had a good game and Kriel got no ball but defended well Moz please explain the issue you had with Kriel today and while you are at it was the Oz 13 any better - both had no action
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Sept 2022, 19:40
#6
03 Sept 2022, 19:40#6
Mpower stop speaking shit DA was good today
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Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
03 Sept 2022, 21:13
#7
03 Sept 2022, 21:13#7

Mpower... wake the fuck up... I'm sick of hearing stupid yarpies throw the term "form" around... he IS NOT talented. Willemse is NOT talented. Am is NOT talented. Kriel is NOT talented. Only a couple of Blocks have talent. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Sept 2022, 22:32
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03 Sept 2022, 22:32#8
YAWN
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Sept 2022, 00:36
#9
04 Sept 2022, 00:36#9

Kriel’s contributions, he missed a quarter of his tackles and lost the ball once. He ran 3 times, made 5 metres and beat no defenders. How the blue blazes can that be okay?

KrielC1620KrielC0135000

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MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
04 Sept 2022, 06:15
#10
04 Sept 2022, 06:15#10
Saf and Mike, you guys must drink a lot before and during the game eh. Dud did a couple things well but that’s where it ends. Kriel is totally shit. It’s really not that hard. I’ve lambasted Mostert, Kolisi and to a lesser extent Wiese in the past, all three were great yesterday. See, not that hard. Fuck!
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Sept 2022, 11:04
#11
04 Sept 2022, 11:04#11

I do not drink anything - but is not a prejudiced arsehole like some members on site.  Mozart's hate campaign against some players have been ongoing since 2013-14 and has never changed.     

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
04 Sept 2022, 12:05
#12
04 Sept 2022, 12:05#12

As I said earlier ... this midfield selection is what nightmares are made of.

Its a box office horror hit.

How anyone with s brain would even consider this combo is beyond me. 

It goes beyond ignorance 




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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Sept 2022, 13:06
#13
04 Sept 2022, 13:06#13

I prefer the De Allende-Am combination.  I do not particularly favor Kriel anyway.   However, who are your combination at center - I always love jokes and need a laugh.

I have a problem though an that is at flyhalf - Jantjies is a joke and Pollard has gone into decline badly - hope the latter is temporary though - but he has produced nothing since the 2019 WC - either for his club or for the Springboks.   We need flyhalf back0ip urgently and hope theys tart grooming the Under 20 flyhalf for that posistion over the coming year or so.   \

I would prefer Willense as a center - but until we get decent flyhalf back-up  he will be the preferred backup player. or even as starting flyhalf,            

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
04 Sept 2022, 15:43
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04 Sept 2022, 15:43#14

unfortunately, we only have a pool of dregs to select from.

there's a few reliable players we can call on right now ... like Marx and Etzebeth ... but once their time's up we'll be stuck with nothing but 2nd rate garbage.

its taken them 20 years to wear us down to barely a nub ...  

unfortunately guys like Willemse and Jantjies are the best standard of player we can expect for the future.

gone are the days when we had absolute class acts in every position.




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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Sept 2022, 16:28
#15
04 Sept 2022, 16:28#15
Kriel hardly got the bloody ball so yes he was ok, he missed 2 tackles as did most the Boks To ignorantly ask the question is there a worse centre combo based on a game where our 12 was good and our 13 had little to do in the game like his Oz counterpart is insulting It’s a load of shit Moz
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sharkbokCaptain23,227 posts
04 Sept 2022, 17:47
#16
04 Sept 2022, 17:47#16

Where was Jessie Kriel on most of the attacking movements? Nowhere. We saw Willie Leroux join the backline on attacking movements, and we even saw Willemse loop around Delande - but no Jessie. 

I must concede that Delande had his best game of the season yesterday.
He made 2 very good passes down the backline that led to tries, and he scored one himself. 
At times he actually played like a world-class centre running at angles to draw, delay and pass letting the outside man run onto the ball at a pace. Nice floating passes. 

Not Jessie on his outside on most attacking movements, I think Willie Leroux was twice the receiver. 

Is it a mental thing with Delande? He seems to have all the attributes to be a modern inside centre, just some days he just goes totally off the boil.

At the start of the game, Delande was hopeless but got better as the game progressed. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Sept 2022, 18:21
#17
04 Sept 2022, 18:21#17
de Allende has been good for ages is never really off Those fools who are anti him don’t get that he plays to a plan but is more than capable of taking it wide as he did against Oz That one pass to Willemse was a lovely touch
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Sept 2022, 18:28
#18
04 Sept 2022, 18:28#18

Well I’m guessing the criticism in the media got to Dud and he took on board the fact that his passing was being criticized. World class passes? Nonsense…..routine draw and pass any Bok centre should be able to do. Willie’s pass was trickier and required putting doubt in the defender’s mind. 

And he botched a real try scoring chance by hoofing his tactical kick into touch when we had a potential overlap. 

Allende defended better, but the Aussies were scarcely running at us with conviction.

If justified criticism improved Dud’s game it’s playing a proper role….the trouble is once it stops he’ll start loafing again.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Sept 2022, 18:29
#19
04 Sept 2022, 18:29#19

Jessie Kriel is a total robot and a horrible defender.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Sept 2022, 19:06
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04 Sept 2022, 19:06#20
Bullshit when Kriel was our regular 13 his defence was excellent as was his attack in combination with DA We can’t except Kriel to perform as he used to as he hardly gets to start at 13 anymore As for DA botching a try scoring opportunity - what crap, there was never a try in that There has never been an issue with his passing - his pass to Willemse for the Mostert try was sublime - great touch, good hands
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Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
04 Sept 2022, 20:36
#21
04 Sept 2022, 20:36#21

Bilbo stop fucking embarrasing yourself. The last time we saw good defence in centre for the Blocks was Jean De Villiers. End of fucking story you ignorant fuckwit. de Lindy was horseshit... maybe great by YOUR standards or YARPY standards... but not the rest of the rugby world.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Sept 2022, 22:53
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04 Sept 2022, 22:53#22

Excellent like when the Japanese center ran all over him to beat the Boks at the WC. These bs assertions just don’t cut it Dave. Despite your faith in him Kriel has never been even adequate.

Look at the very first time Kriel’s opponent gets the ball…at 00.47….beats Jessica with ease on the outside. It’s not a matter of familiarity this robot can’t tackle.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Sept 2022, 23:16
#23
04 Sept 2022, 23:16#23

And of course there was a damn good chance of scoring a try when Dud Allende hoofed the ball into touch.

The man next to Dud was Eben who simply had to draw the tackle and pass to Kriel who had Mapimpi outside him, with Willemse two steps behind. The cover was well inside Dud….and there was one….only one….just one ….merely one Aussie defender to stop 3 Boks coming through.

Hell we aren’t even asking Jessica or the Pimp to beat a tackle. If our backs can’t score from there we might as well stop competing.

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
04 Sept 2022, 23:34
#24
04 Sept 2022, 23:34#24

Duh Dickhead is kept alive by Belly Queen no chance, just like Koom ba ja, kollisi, that they will be dropped.

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