Coenie,Labuschagne, JJ, Sefontein and Reinach would all walk onto my Bok team.
same here all those junior players are world class any team will be lucky to have them
Well seeing as Serfontein didn't play against the Stormers before the play offs I fail to understand how he got outplayed...
Now I could kick up a fuss about how I 'lied' about the Du Preez selection and how Reinach is not in Meyers plans, but I'm not because that's petty.
"Well seeing as Serfontein didn't play against the Stormers before the play offs I fail to understand how he got outplayed..."
Pfffffffffffffhahahahahahahahahaha!
That puts the rest of Moffie's hopelessly biased and just plain stupid observations into perspective . . . but there's always the possibility that the pompous old windbag can't tell the difference between Francois Venter and Jan Serfontein. After all, it wasn't that long ago that old egg-face couldn't even tell the difference between Jaco Taute and Francois Hougaard. Wehe!
On the contrary I'm just taking you all at your word. It appears you think you all agree with each other, but you all believe different things....there is no consensus.....only that you don't like Meyers team.
Moz the choices are easy, you can stick with the likes of Basson, Jean, Morne, du Preez, Jannie, Kruger and Alberts and be sure that the Kiwi's will beat us both at home and away and that the Aussies will pretty much do the same.
Against the Argies we will struggle for a draw away from home once again.
Mvovo might have been beaten by Speight, but then Speight was taken apart by JJ, it happens. With JP unavailable we have to do better than Basson on the wing. Mvovo, v/d Heever and Rhule are our only options.......Mvovo has been the best of these three this year.
Jean vs Serfontein.......we have experience vs the next big thing, if we want more of the solid same we select Jean and waste a year of Serfonteins class in the midfield. You select Jean, I'm with the new in Serfontein. One thing we cant do is play either Jean or Serfontein at 13 as neither will have the impact JJ has with his pace. JJ has set the benchmark for 13 play amongst SA centres and that is purely down to his out and out pace and great feet.
Morne we have done to death, we are not going to win big test matches with what this guy has to offer. We needed to move on last year and did, why on earth would anyone want to resort back to those mediocre offerings from a test 10. Lambie might not be in the form of his life, but he has hardly been poor and proved his mental metal at test level some years back. Goosen would have been ideal, but Lambie is a far better option than Morne.
Vermaak is no way a better 9 than Reinach or v/Zyl, he is good but not better. Pienaar has been average on the EOYT and the same in the tests this year, its time to move on. Selecting du Preez is laughable, he was past his best when he left and has not played top flight rugby for two years, v/Zyl would have been my choice.
I'd be happy to see Jannie retained if he had, had a stand out season but he has not. I'd keep him in the mix but would prefer to see Coenie starting at 3, but then again as the Bok coach I would have insisted he spent the S15 playing tighthead instead of hindering his development by playing him on both sides each game.
de Jager might be 20 but he makes far more of an impact each game than either Kruger or v/d Merwe do. Both are not test standard locks so why on earth would we waste our time with them. They sell us short. The Kiwi's play two rookie locks in Retalick and Whitelock, so can we. I'm sorry but there is no way we can continue with Kruger in the engine room, he lacks grunt and offers nothing with ball in hand. de Jager has been one of the finds of the season. The 125kg monster would be a great partner for Eben until Steph du Toit recovers. Hell I'd play Baby Bok Jacques du Plessis before I played Kruger or v/d Merwe and that is not a joke. This kid is as good as Eben and PSDT were at the same age.
Alberts blows hot and cold, more cold than hot these days. I'd prefer to see investment in Elstadt who for some unknown reason as never made a Meyer training squad. Says it all when it comes to Meyer.
I am a big fan of Labascagne, has good skill, but at 105kg where do you play him. He is not an openside and realistically not big enough for blindside. 8 is probably his best bet, as it is for Coetzee and Arno Botha. But having said that, one could concede on the size thing and rely on their skill and commitment to make an impact at 7. Its about finding the right balance and getting the best 3 loosies as a trio. I for a start dont buy into Louw as a 6 at all, too big and better suited to 7 or 8 much like Schalk was.
Brussouw and Fourie should have been in the squad. What is Kolisi doing in the squad, I understood he was out injured for the rest of the season.
Sorry Moz, I could never buy into the retention of the likes of Jean, Morne, Pienaar, Kruger, Alberts and co......these guys under Meyer have brought us nothing and its time to invest in the new generation of Boks
