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Israel Dagg squeezed out of All Blacks back three for South Africa clash; NZ Herald

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
13 Sept 2017, 20:28
#1
13 Sept 2017, 20:28#1

No Israel Dagg and no room for Vaea Fifita, but otherwise the All Blacks will roll out their strongest side for the Springboks in Albany.

 

Seven starting changes - and one positional switch - for a second successive week suggests rotation is in vogue. This week at least, Steve Hansen has returned to his incumbents at both ends of the experience spectrum in a sure sign of just how much respect the All Blacks have for the Boks.

 

Fifita's absence will raise eyebrows. The humble Hurricanes flanker shot to instant fame after his spectacular runaway try last week against the Pumas. In his maiden test start, other than some extra work in the tight he could hardly have done much more.

 

Even then, Liam Squire was always favoured to return at blindside. Now he will be keen to re-stamp his mark.

 

The balance of the bench combined with shoulder bruising which prevented Fifita from training early in the week means he must wait to showcase his athletic talents again. Ardie Savea will provide loose forward cover with Sam Cane returning at openside.

 

Dagg will be immensely disappointed, too. He has managed only one test, last week against the Pumas, since the British and Irish Lions series as his troublesome knee continues to cause him problems. While he failed a concussion test against the Pumas, he presented no symptoms since. It is his knee holding him back.

 

Nehe Milner-Skudder is the beneficiary of Dagg's on-going frustrations, moving to his more accustomed right wing. After his first test for two years last week, no doubt Milner-Skudder has empathy for Dagg's plight.

 

He will link with Rieko Ioane, recalled on the left edge, in a rejigged back three. Damian McKenzie retains his spot at fullback, despite some shaky efforts under the high ball in New Plymouth.

 

The All Blacks' preferred combination of Sonny Bill Williams and Ryan Crotty reunite in the midfield as expected, and Aaron Smith returns at halfback to push TJ Perenara to the bench.

 

Up-front, Luke Romano drops out of the squad with Sam Whitelock back after a week off and Scott Barrett retaining his spot in the reserves.


Kane Hames' promotion from out of the squad to starting loosehead over Wyatt Crockett following Joe Moody's season-ending dislocated shoulder may catch some by surprise. But it speaks to the regard the All Blacks hold Hames' destructive scrummaging abilities. His first start in his third test may be a sign of things to come this season.

 

"Our big focus this week has been about continual improvement, growing ourselves as a team, growing our game and how we want to play it, and how we want to play against different opposition," All Blacks coach Steve Hansen said.

 

"Sunday to Friday gives us the opportunity to look at ourselves individually and collectively and get better as a team. We need the games we are getting at the moment, we've had a bit of adversity, and that will only make us better."

 

The Boks come off a draw with the Wallabies in Perth but won their previous five tests against Argentina and France, setting up an anticipated contest.

 

"They scrummage well, they attack well with the ball and their defence is getting better. So that's basically the game. We know they're a tough opponent - they're always a tough opponent. There's a long-standing history and rivalry between our two teams. We enjoy playing them, they play hard and it's always competitive. But afterwards they're always keen to catch up for a chat and a beer."

 

All Blacks team to play South Africa at QBE Stadium on Saturday:

 

Kane Hames, Dane Coles, Nepo Laulala, Brodie Retallick, Samuel Whitelock, Liam Squire, Sam Cane, Kieran Read (c), Aaron Smith, Beauden Barrett, Rieko Ioane, Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Damian McKenzie

 

Reserves: Codie Taylor, Wyatt Crockett, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Scott Barrett, Ardie Savea, TJ Perenara, Lima Sopoaga, Anton Lienert-Brown

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
13 Sept 2017, 20:34
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13 Sept 2017, 20:34#2
 Hope you can read the full article, the site imposes the twitter section on top.
Here's the link to the  Original article
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
13 Sept 2017, 20:39
#3
13 Sept 2017, 20:39#3
 In terms of kicking from the T, McKenzie does not offer cover for a potential poor performance from Barrett as he has a leg injury - reported in another article.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
13 Sept 2017, 20:44
#4
13 Sept 2017, 20:44#4
 All Blacks spring a surprise starting Kane Hames at loosehead against Springboks; Marc Hinton

 

Big-time risk or calculated move? Either way, we are about to get a cast-iron indication whether Tasman prop Kane Hames is as good as Steve Hansen suspects he is.

 

Life is about to get suddenly very real for Hames, who not so very long ago did not even merit a full Super Rugby contract and now will run out for his first test start at loosehead prop for the All Blacks. Against the Springboks, no less.

 

The 29-year-old late bloomer, who can play both sides, has been whistled up from the provincial fields of Mitre 10 Cup rugby straight into the All Blacks' starting XV in the one major surprise in Hansen's match-day 23 to face the Springboks in Saturday night's Rugby Championship clash in Albany.

 

All told there are eight changes from the XV that ran on to start the 39-22 victory over Argentina in New Plymouth last Saturday, with Hansen pretty much returning to his best available lineup for the first test of the year against the Boks.

 

But the decision to start Hames is one few would have seen coming. The injury replacement for Joe Moody (dislocated shoulder) has played two previous tests (both off the bench) in similar circumstances, against the Wallabies in Sydney in 2016, and the same opponents just a few weeks back in Dunedin when he came in to cover for Wyatt Crockett's head knock.

 

Most expected veteran backup man Crockett to be promoted to starting duties and Hames to be introduced off the bench in the impact role in the second half against the Boks.

 

But Hansen backs Hames to get the job done from the start, and has left the 34-year-old Crockett in the supersub spot that he has now made his own. He likes the balance of the 23 in this form.

 

It will be a huge test for Hames, who is not a renowned scrummager. Going against the Wallabies is one thing, but that gnarly Boks front row is sure to ask a few hard questions of the new chum.

 

That is likely part of Hansen's motivation for throwing him straight in. They are going to know a lot more about his capabilities in the test arena after Saturday night at QBE Stadium.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 Sept 2017, 20:45
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13 Sept 2017, 20:45#5
 Barret should not be the place kicker at all.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
13 Sept 2017, 20:48
#6
13 Sept 2017, 20:48#6
 The article above has no graphics imposed on it, at least n my PC.
Hansen has gone with his incumbents except for injury and Hames. Hansen clearly wants to find out about players that are on the fringe of the ABs. Not afraid to take risks.
Tee kicking pressure is on Barrett, does this give the Boks an opening?
PA
PapamoaClub Pro683 posts
13 Sept 2017, 21:28
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13 Sept 2017, 21:28#8
 Not a bad team... But the changes are interesting, no Vaea?? Wtf, Crockett on the bench... Thought him starting then bring Hames on in the second half. The props are so inexperienced it's not funny!!! But, the rest of the team looks like the top side so should have plenty of experience to help out the rookies... Like to see Laumape get more game time... Especially Crotty can't get through 80 minutes without limping off injured these days. SBW is still not flash. 
But Barrett isn't at his best either, but the ABs are working on an attacking strategy to out manoeuvre the defence... Hasn't fallen into place yet, but no doubt it will change the way teams will defend once they counter this rushing defensive plan every team has adapted to. The ABs have made so many changes so far this year, good building for 2018 to crush the poms and head into the RWC 2019
3K
3ku1Pro2,580 posts
14 Sept 2017, 02:52
#9
14 Sept 2017, 02:52#9
I don't think theirs any reason Barret shouldn't be the place kicker, like Hansen said he's a great goal,kicker when he's on. Just look at how he got 5/5 against OZ in Duniden. Barrett was man of the match. Abs are changing their attacking strategies. And building depth for Japan 2019. Part of why I think they well retain. Solid side. No surprises Fafita is not in the run on side. He picked up a shoulder bump from what I've heard. And they need to manage his development. I guess they feel Squire suits their game more againgst the boks. Bit inexperienced in the front row. But like the boks said. All great players. The tight five is pretty experienced overall. Seems Hansen is using this RC to blood some new players. Good move imo.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
14 Sept 2017, 03:05
#10
14 Sept 2017, 03:05#10
3ku1. He seems to want to have the team & strategy settled by the end of year tour and is willing to take risks to achieve this goal.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
14 Sept 2017, 08:27
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14 Sept 2017, 08:27#11
 
Just when I thought JW had figured it out ... he goes and messes it up again.

 

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