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Israel Folau - Crowd Funding

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
21 Jun 2019, 15:28
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21 Jun 2019, 15:28#1

Israel Folau has now called upon the public to help him finance his battle against the ARU

He refuses to use his own finances after already forking out A$100 000, and has now resorted to using a crowd funding site to generate money to fight the case that he himself started with his stupid behavior.

What a complete and utter joke, and so much for, if it's God's will, I will accept it...… why is he wanting to use other people's money then, to do God's work?...…. why not dig deeper into his own pockets to follow through with God's will.

Absolutely pathetic in my opinion

Israel tweeted the following:

"I have the fight of my life on my hands. If you can and choose to donate, thank you.https://t.co/Tk1gZaEphB pic.twitter.com/qBWGG9fGOQ

— Israel Folau (@IzzyFolau) June 20, 2019"

Even a former aussie rugby player has lambasted Folau for these latest actions...… Drew Mitchell posted the following reply:

"YOU are in a fight that YOU chose to be in after YOU broke the terms of YOUR contract, the kids below are in a fight they NEVER wanted to be in & yet YOU think YOU deserve donations more than they do??!!

It’s no longer about religion, it’s about YOU and YOUR greed.
@IzzyFolau ??????? pic.twitter.com/mdywzaw1ha

— Drew Mitchell (@drew_mitchell) June 21, 2019"

Another poster added:

"Bloody cheek. Put your hand a little deeper into your bulging pockets Izzy,"

The tabloid Sydney Daily Telegraph called Folau "shameless", claiming he owns a multi-million dollar property portfolio.

I am sure some posters will fully agree to what Folau is doing here, but I think it is disgusting to call upon the public to financially support you and raise funds for you, because of a stupid and irresponsible decision that you made.

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FlashdakotaClub Pro800 posts
21 Jun 2019, 15:33
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21 Jun 2019, 15:33#2

The guy is becoming an absolute joke!

Who asks the public to fund their legal fees???? (please lets leave J Zuma out of this)

Especially when he has more money than most other rugby players.

Im sorry Izzy, you have just lost my respect (if that counts for anything).


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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
21 Jun 2019, 16:08
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21 Jun 2019, 16:08#3

Fully agree Sharkie and Cloudy...….

Absolutely pathetic in my opinion, and as Cloudy says, I wonder how many who supported him, will now go into their very own pocket, to financially contribute to this "cause"

Talk about taking the piss out of something

I said right from the very beginning , and got questioned by a few people on here..... I said wait till it comes to affecting his finances, then let's see how "religious" Folau is.

I was spot on with my assessment...….

No longer is it God's will anymore, now it is Folau and whatever public money he can get...….. against the ARU

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sharkbokCaptain23,208 posts
21 Jun 2019, 16:13
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21 Jun 2019, 16:13#4
It is self-delusion- at this point, Izzy believes he is God.....  
Although this thread is probably more suited to the Beeno section, as Folau is no longer a rugby player. 


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Jun 2019, 16:46
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21 Jun 2019, 16:46#5
Absolutely the right move to ask for support....just like the Loony Left is funded by George Soros. Folau has a cause which affects many, he shouldn't be expected to carry the burden all by himself. He has made a massive sacrifice for his beliefs already
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
21 Jun 2019, 17:07
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21 Jun 2019, 17:07#6

I fully respect his right to any belief or religion, and his personal right to state that belief in public, provided it does not cross any boundary that prohibits him from doing so (another discussion entirely regarding the ARU and how they reacted )

What I don't respect is him asking for public funds so that he can attempt to get a A$10 000 000 payout from the ARU.

I guess he will be such a good person, and he will pay back all the people who contributed to him, if he wins the A$ 10 000 000

It's greed, pure and simple

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
21 Jun 2019, 17:11
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21 Jun 2019, 17:11#7

Just another Christian burying his snout in the trough, but as long as there are idiots willing to part with their money pricks like this will be around.

Let me think about this, give money to a stupid rich guy with an inflated ego who believes in fairy tales or give money to help save a child's life. 

No surprise snowflake supports him spreading the hate is more important than a child's life.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
21 Jun 2019, 17:18
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21 Jun 2019, 17:18#8

All this so that Folau himself  can attempt to obtain some substantial financial compensation..... nobody else

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sharkbokCaptain23,208 posts
21 Jun 2019, 17:33
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21 Jun 2019, 17:33#9
Someone should start a crowdfund to help Rugby Australia to fund their legal battle against this praat, or even to sue him for misconduct - and not just breach of contract. 
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
21 Jun 2019, 18:13
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21 Jun 2019, 18:13#10
Sharkbok makes a valid point. Folau is no longer a rugby player . . . he's now just a stupid, self-serving bible-basher . . . so move all this god-bothering rubbish to the Trumpet.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jun 2019, 18:25
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21 Jun 2019, 18:25#11

Yes Moz it happens all the time. Eg Go fund me. Millions, the majority really, in Oz support Folau and doubtless he will get the funding to take on the perv Oz rugby union run by the weird nz goth women. Looks like a complete lunatic. 

I do hope the usually savvy Ozzies have learnt their lessons about employing freaks from nz!

I see that our resident pervs are insensed that decent people will be funding the expensive legal fees. How horrid of Folau to warn the pervs they will not go to heaven unless they turn from their perv ways.  Actually such a great  act!!! 

Read the other day the pervs want to give young children the right to change sex Without the parents permission!!

The pervs in the demonrat party want to make men's participation in women's sport acceptable. 

Doubtless our resident pervs will be ecstatic but I cautionthem  to not get over excited as there are more normal sane decent people than these loud mouthed disgusting pervs. 

So go for it Folau you great man. Oz rugby finances are in a bad way. Bring the whole rotten house down. Perhaps they can then start a new union not run by pervs.

I still hope the God fearing PI players in Oz will follow Folau's excellent example. What great people. 

For too long have pervs forced their perversions on the silent majority. Mark my words they are after the children now. That fact is all over the internet.

The whole event has revealed we have a few pervs here. They disgust me. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jun 2019, 18:30
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21 Jun 2019, 18:30#12

Perhaps Ed  can move all the pervs here to a new section called Pervs Corner.  Confine them there so they don't pollute the board. 

They will be happy as they can the get on with their perv talk and how much fun it would be to trans or whatever the freaks talk about. 


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jun 2019, 18:33
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21 Jun 2019, 18:33#13

Cloudy lawsuits like this could bankrupt even a Folau. By funding him you are joining the fight against the pervs. 

It's great to see Christians and normal people rising up against this degeneracy 


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jun 2019, 18:36
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21 Jun 2019, 18:36#14

Fools like sharktwit fail to understand nobody not wanting to fund has to do so. Those funding Folau will do so because they want too. Face it sharktwit you hate the facts so many people support Folau. Hahahahahahah suck it up perv! 

You don't get many people more foolish that this dumbass sharktwit. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jun 2019, 18:38
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21 Jun 2019, 18:38#15

By the way Moz I see Tucker Carlson had a go at George Soros and the danger he is to America.


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jun 2019, 18:39
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21 Jun 2019, 18:39#16

You guys will have to deal with Soros and the sooner the better. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jun 2019, 18:45
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21 Jun 2019, 18:45#17

Rooitwit the only valid point about sharktwit is that he is as complete a twit as you. Bwhahahahaha! 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Jun 2019, 19:02
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21 Jun 2019, 19:02#18

I will reserve judgement on this until all the facts are known and this whole thing has played out.

This is an issue of principle and a precedent has been set. He has already spent R1 million of his own money. Let's see what he does with the money if he wins compensation. This is an important issue for Christians and non Christians alike. Let's see what the law says.

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sharkbokCaptain23,208 posts
21 Jun 2019, 19:15
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21 Jun 2019, 19:15#19
Draad, I would agree with how he spends his money in the past and future is a testament to his character. 
Is there any way to check how much money he has devoted to charity in the past- given he is a multi-millionaire?
This is a fund against Folau - https://www.gofundme.com/f/NoToFolau
I must admit I would not fund either. However, there is no transparency where the funds go. Does NO TO FOLAU just pocket the money or is it given to Australia Rugby to fight the course case- what happens if the court case never happens. 
Who audits these crowdfunding campaigns? 
Vote Team Izzy (Jesus version 2) or NoToFolau. 

Izzy looks like he is going to get into politics.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Jun 2019, 19:46
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21 Jun 2019, 19:46#20

Shark, just BTW...I'm not too fond of Pentecostal churches particularly because of their "prosperity doctrine " ...and a few other things too.

At this stage it's not clear what Folau's motivation is in all this. That's why I reserve judgement. 

I can understand the gripe lots of non Christians have with "money grabbing pastors". There are a lot of charlatans out there and lots of good, hardworking people are swindled out of their hard earned money on a daily basis...this is not Christianity however, it's theft masked in religion, and it's everywhere...not only in churches...crooks will jump at any opportunity...the human condition. 

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NdabaningiClub Pro116 posts
21 Jun 2019, 20:32
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21 Jun 2019, 20:32#21

People have the right to associate on the basis of any shared interest, as long as the nexus is legal. This right is entrenched in the constitutions of most civilized countries and in the foundational documents of many international bodies, such as the UN. Predictably, thoughtless idiots will project their own prepubescent 'moral' take on the matter and seek to deny Folau and his supporters the opportunity to exercise a well defined and globally accepted right. But then what can you expect from a bunch of sorry losers who dedicate significant amounts of time bitchslapping each other on a meaningless little forum.

PS. I am so looking forward to those impotent bokkies getting creamed/exiting at the quarters.

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sharkbokCaptain23,208 posts
21 Jun 2019, 20:46
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21 Jun 2019, 20:46#22

Nbangansomethingorother,

I am not sure how to spell your name, but must be great to not support your own country in a world cup - very civilized... . 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jun 2019, 21:17
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21 Jun 2019, 21:17#23

Sharktwit how Folau spends his money has zero to do with you, you ignorant and arrogant twit. 

All you need to be concerned about is what you do. Folau is many times the man a sick perv like you are. 

The Oz rugby union under the leadership of the weirdo nz goth freak have stripped Folau of his right to play rugby where he is a mega star, taking away his ability to earn and have also attempted to take away his free speech.

I hope Folau sues the pants off these pervs. Teach the and the other pervs a huge lesson. 

Off to the gay club with you sharktwit. You and rooitwit can commiserate there. 

What a sick bunch of pervs we have. 


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NdabaningiClub Pro116 posts
21 Jun 2019, 21:19
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21 Jun 2019, 21:19#24

The microcephalic icon is apt. Go look it up.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jun 2019, 21:20
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21 Jun 2019, 21:20#25

I see the demonrat Rhode Island Governor is signing a bill to allow abortion up to the time of birth ala Crooked Hillary Clinton. 

Doubtless the sick pervs here will be delighted. 

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NdabaningiClub Pro116 posts
21 Jun 2019, 21:27
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21 Jun 2019, 21:27#26

Re abortion: There is a growing lobby advocating for socalled after-birth abortion.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jun 2019, 21:36
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21 Jun 2019, 21:36#27

Ndabaningi the Virginia Demorat Governor Northam wants abortion after the baby is born. Northam is a doctor. Saw the clip where he says that after birth the baby must be made comfortable while the doctors discusses with the mother whether the baby should be terminated. its called infanticide.

These demonrats are Satanic/atheist no question about it.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jun 2019, 21:44
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21 Jun 2019, 21:44#28

Folau gives sermon saying they want to allow young children to change sex without the permission of their parents. But of course these bent insane perverts thinK Folau is the bad guy!

Watch this:






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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Jun 2019, 22:07
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21 Jun 2019, 22:07#29
Folau is a simple man who's right of free speech has been denied. He made no comments about his employer, they were general observations on society. It was not hate speech. In a free society he has a right to those views and in a free country like the USA, he would have a right to damages. All you chaps want him to deny the weapons his opponents use......and suffer as a result of his views. That's rather unsporting. I don't agree with Folau's views, but I think he has a right to express them. And I despise the punishment everybody wants to heap on him. Tolerance is still a novel idea to those who demand tolerance in others....and apparently not a concept with much support in South Africa or Oz.....unless it's politically correct tolerance.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jun 2019, 22:21
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21 Jun 2019, 22:21#30

Hoor hoor!

One thing for sure the pervs are coming for your kids. 

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NdabaningiClub Pro116 posts
21 Jun 2019, 22:46
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21 Jun 2019, 22:46#31

The ARU (and most other organisational structures/bodies) want diversity, but strongly resist diversity of opinion. The majority of fwits on this forum (like the fwit who uses a genetic condition associated with intellectual handicap - and quite appropriately so- to identify himself) are incapable of recognizing their misguided zeal for self destruction/orwellian  reality .

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Jun 2019, 23:27
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21 Jun 2019, 23:27#32

Ndaba...most sensible things I've heard you say in this place...ever, but why do you feel the need tell us in such a complicated way that Shark is a fckwit retard?

You an Auzzie or a Kiwi? ...don't tell me you're a Pom.

ND
NdabaningiClub Pro116 posts
21 Jun 2019, 23:40
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21 Jun 2019, 23:40#33

Uhuh. You found the rest of the truth I uttered not intellectually accessible. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,208 posts
22 Jun 2019, 00:28
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22 Jun 2019, 00:28#34

Nbaba Ningi I rarely understand your ramblings. You say so much crap that eventually you must say something that is correct-  for even a broken clock is right once per day. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jun 2019, 01:41
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22 Jun 2019, 01:41#35
Some new information there Cloudy. But even if Folau is capable of manipulating the situation, it doesn't take away his right to speak his mind. If he simply said sinners will go to hell, there would have been no fuss. And the group he has picked as sinners have been viewed that way by the Church forever. Is the Church also going to be sanctioned now? But to me the clinching fact is, as one of rugby's top stars in a WC year, his best financial course would have simply been to accept all the endorsements. He put all that at risk for something.....and it wasn't to win a law suit.
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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
22 Jun 2019, 01:53
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22 Jun 2019, 01:53#36

He has a property portfolio  of A$5.6 million (8 properties)

He is in a situation he brought on himself yet he doesn't want to pay his own way. Its a straight up money grab on his part.

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NdabaningiClub Pro116 posts
22 Jun 2019, 01:55
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22 Jun 2019, 01:55#37

'I rarely understand your ramblings'

That's ok. I know your first language is mamparra.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
22 Jun 2019, 02:23
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22 Jun 2019, 02:23#38

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/israel-enough-is-enough-why-don-t-you-just-go-fund-yourself-20190621-p5204j.html

Israel, enough is enough . . . why don't you just go fund yourself?By Peter FitzSimons June 21, 2019 — 7.16pm

Credit:

It’s a tough one.

The Vinnies CEO Sleepout last night set a target of $7 million to raise money for homeless people across Australia. At the exact same time Israel Folau has set up a GoFundMe page to pay for his own legal costs in an attempt to make Australia a safe place in which to vilify gays.

So, who is most deserving of your charitable dollar? I’ll leave you think for an eighth of a second . . .

Friends, this is ABSURD and has even more levels of hypocrisy to it than Alan Jones – did I mention he is the principal pusher of Folau and his fundraising page? – is usually associated with, which is saying something.

Let’s start with you, Israel Folau. As a good Christian man, your word should be your bond and, when you make a commitment, that should be the end of it. So we’ll leave aside – just for the moment, I promise you – your commitment to Rugby Australia not to put up any more posts like you did last year, the commitment on which they in turn committed a million dollars a year to you for the next four years. Let’s instead go straight to your words on the Players Voice website last April where you wrote: “After we’d all talked, I told Raelene if she felt the situation had become untenable – that I was hurting Rugby Australia, its sponsors and the Australian rugby community to such a degree that things couldn’t be worked through – I would walk away from my contract, immediately.”

Israel? Can you seriously make a case that you’re NOT damaging the game? You think rugby is stronger because of this debacle?

Those are your words, Israel. Do they count for anything or not? How do your words fit your commitment? And now you want the community to fund you – a lot of them in $5 and $10 contributions – to unleash the legal beagles all the way to the High Court? Your sheer hypocrisy was put well by Rod Kafer on Fox Sports last week, referring specifically to that commitment you made to Raelene Castle about walking if you damaged the game: “Israel, you’re damaging the game. It is just, to me, a man who I believe has great faith but he is really, really damaging the game. At some point you’ve got to live the words that you say with action. He should walk away.”

Israel? Can you seriously make a case that you’re NOT damaging the game? You think rugby is stronger because of this debacle? #FFS!

Do you get that GoFundMe is specifically set up to fund those who cannot fund themselves? Calling on the generosity of the community to raise money for things like removing tumours?

But you instead want it used to get lawyers to help a millionaire footballer who broke a solid commitment and got sacked for his trouble gouge money from the game that is already on its knees! For if you win, Israel, and come good for the $10 million you seek, what then? You break Australian rugby, you empower those who vilify gays. Nice work.

And while I’ve got you, can we talk about the fine print of your GoFundMe page, so you can legally assert that people were forewarned : “In making this contribution I acknowledge that my contributions are made freely as a gift . . . and that there will be no obligations on Israel Folau to do anything for me in recognition of the gift or to apply the funds in any particular way with respect to his legal action, and that I hold no expectation to receive anything in return for my contribution.”
Can you expand on that one?

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And now to you, Alan Jones – you who’s been boasting for weeks about how you and others will be supporting Folau, financially and otherwise, to take this all the way to the High Court. For now we’ve come to it, you want those living on Struggle Street to put up their money? Seriously, Alan?

But speaking of Struggle Street, do you think gay teenagers taking their lives at five times the rate of straight teens might qualify to live there, might be thinking that Alan Jones – whose most famous boast of all is how you help those on Struggle Street – might line up on their side of the equation?
But no – hello Guinness Book of Records, I think we’ve got to new heights of hypocrisy and plumbed new depths of venality in just the one go – you’ve lined up with Folau, giving him that ludicrous “interview” this morning. For that was no interview, Alan, no attempt at getting to the heart of the matter, it was an exercise in pushing just one line – poor little Israel, and how hard he has been done down.

Despite that, Folau returned to an interesting point at the end of it, allowing that Castle had indeed made clear before he re-signed to post “in a respectful way’’.

Follow up from you, Alan? Something like “and you feel it is respectful to say that gay people are going to roast in hell for eternity?” would have done the trick.
But no. You finished with “and you feel you have been [respectful] . . . ”

Nice work. And I can only imagine how the gay teenagers living on Struggle Street would feel to hear it.


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sharkbokCaptain23,208 posts
22 Jun 2019, 02:48
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22 Jun 2019, 02:48#39


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jun 2019, 03:30
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22 Jun 2019, 03:30#40
Does that statement sound like something Folau came up with? Or his lawyer? A standard bit of boiler plate to protect him from being sued. Fitzsimmons' piece is a classic bit of media assassination.Go Fund Me does not require that the individual can't fund himself.....merely that it's a good cause that others might wish to support. Fitzsimmon's should check his facts. How do I know? I just made a contribution on the site, where the person I was supporting was not financially indigent.
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