Once and for all I am going to tackle the lie of Mr.Clever regarding Folau. His original claim:
Posted by: clevermike (30515 posts)
Jul 01, 2018, 19:02
Lurker
Let me explain a few things - an aimless kick where it involves just handing over possession to the opposing team. It is where kicks cannot be followed up effectively and poorly directed - ie straight into the hands of a waiting recipient.
There are two types of kicks that are acceptable, namely -
* strategic kicks being part of an attack strategy eg dribble kicks near the opposition try-line and cross kicks.
* relieving kicks - but they must be so directed that a quick throw-in is not possible.
My claim:
Posted by: Lurker (55 posts)
Jul 01, 2018, 19:51
In 2013 South Africa kicked at Folau because he couldn't kick. So he got pinned back and had to to concede penalties. In 2014 they did a similar thing and Folau tried to kick it out but gave the Boks lineouts in and near the Australian 22. Effective kicks depend on numerous things. A good press and chase means the ball carrier has few options and is under pressure. Pressure leads to errors.
Now, I subsequently posted an article that supported my claims. He ignored that article. Now he is claiming that I did not cite the source, though I posted the link and the relevant article in the original thread. Here it is once again, as before:
League convert Folau endured a mixed first appearance in the Wallabies' No.15 jersey in the 38-12 loss to South Africa on Saturday night, as he was well contained by the Springboks and too often ignored by teammates.
Folau was expected to add an extra dimension to the Wallabies' attack but admitted the transition from Super Rugby, where he starred with NSW Waratahs, was huge. He turned the ball over at the ruck with his first run and also gave a penalty away later in the first half from a kick-return which gave the Boks a 16-6 lead.
http://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/15330797/poor-finishing-costing-wallabies-folau
Here's another:
Cooper endured a miserable night on his long-awaited return to the No.10 jersey. He failed to spark Australia's under-pressure attack, and he gave away the penalty from which the Springboks stormed to an early lead with reserve prop Coenie Oosthuizen barging past him to score in the sixth minute. Israel Folau's move to fullback also failed to reap the rewards expected as the game-breaker was often ignored out wide, while the Boks impressive loose-forwards also forced a first-half penalty goal by trapping him after a kick-return.
http://en.espn.co.uk/the-rugby-championship-2013/rugby/story/197175.html
Here's another:
Israel Folau was penalised right in front of his own sticks for not releasing the ball, gifting the Springboks another three points from the boot of Steyn.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2013/0907/472855-springboks-hammer-australia-in-brisbane/
Clever Mike will assert that this is all nonsense. So why don't we consult ESPN for the true facts? So, in spite of being kicked at, he was rendered ineffective. How can this be? The man so bright his father named him Clever stated this is impossible. However, this was repeated in 2014, when the Boks repeatedly kicked at him again. He failed to relieve pressure everytime, and set the Boks up with lineouts deep into Wallaroo territory, often on the 22m line or little inside it.
