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Jake White on Frans Steyn

Started by Mozart6 REPLIES335 VIEWS· 18 Jun 2016, 03:32
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Jun 2016, 03:32
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18 Jun 2016, 03:32#1

Frans Steyn is once again excelling under the guidance of Jake White, writes MARK KEOHANE.

It bemuses Jake White more than anything else when he gets asked what his magic formula is in getting the best out of Frans Steyn.

White picked Steyn to be a Springbok a year after he finished school and the player responded with a Man of the Match performance on the wing against Ireland in Dublin. Subsequently there have been many more of those imposing Man of the Match situations at the Springboks, at the Sharks and now at Montpellier.

White’s chuckle screams irony more than amusement at the question of Steyn.

‘Who should need a magic formula when it comes to a player of Frans’s talent?’ asks White. ‘I recognised his skills when he was a schoolboy at Grey College. The Boks were in a training camp in Bloemfontein in 2004 and we went to watch Grey play. Frans was sensational and I made no secret about my belief that he would be good enough to be playing Test rugby in 24 months. I told several of the senior players and my assistant coaches that he was good enough to go to the World Cup in 2007.’

Steyn did go to the World Cup in 2007 and was influential in the success of the campaign. He replaced the injured Jean de Villiers as the first-choice inside centre and excelled. He also kicked a significant long-range penalty in the 15-6 win against England in the final.

‘He was 20 years old and he played like he had been a Test player for 20 years,’ says White. ‘He’s a special player; a rare talent. There aren’t many of those X-factor players who can walk from a school field into the Test arena and immediately be equally at home and as influential. New Zealand’s Dan Carter is one. South Africa’s Frans Steyn is another.’

White’s view is that he’d pick Steyn every week because of his qualities as a rugby player and for him it’s a mystery that his successors as Bok coaches could not see the value of Steyn.

‘He can play fullback, wing, centre and flyhalf – and he plays them better than most in the world. He is a better rugby player now than when he won the World Cup in 2007 – and that’s because he’s travelled, matured, got married and played in Japan and France. He’s been taken out of his comfort zone, in terms of living environment, and he’s always responded brilliantly. He understands his body more and he understands the game even better because of the wisdom that comes with experience.

‘He has a presence whenever he plays and he commands the attention of the opposition. When he first went to Racing 92 they won an unprecedented 11 matches in a row. He was a big part of that. He was a big part of the Super Rugby league-stage success the year I coached the Sharks, he flourished in Japan and his arrival at Montpellier coincided with a 10-match winning sequence. There is no coincidence there.

‘The only difference between the Frans Steyn I first picked and the Frans Steyn who has been superb for Montpellier is one was a schoolboy starring in a man’s world and now one is a man playing a leading role in a man’s world.

‘I have always been amazed at how many critics he’s had. He hardly missed a game for me when I was Bok, Sharks and Montpellier coach. He always wants to play and he always produces commanding performances. I know he has a knee problem and I manage that in the week. He isn’t the type of player who needs to prove anything to me or his teammates at training – and be flogged unnecessarily. I respect that he will always front up on match day – and that’s the only day it counts.

‘He is an adult and I treat him with the necessary respect, and he has always shown me a similar respect. His teammates also get the value of his professionalism because whenever he has been in an environment where I have been the coach, there have never been mind games or a power struggle. I saw this brilliant schoolboy playing for Grey College and I wanted him to play for any team I coached. With the exception of the Brumbies, I have always managed to call on his talent.’


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Jun 2016, 05:56
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18 Jun 2016, 05:56#2
This praise song does not stop Fransie from being slow in pace and very poor in execution.  Just remember his performances in 2014 and 2015 for the Sharks - bearing in mind his poor decisionmaking and virtual non-existent line breaks and tackles beaten, as well as the worst defensive record of any Super Rugby centers in SA.   Still overweight - but he is a favourite of White - so nothing is done to have him getting rid of the extra lard.        
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XaviPro1,924 posts
18 Jun 2016, 10:20
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18 Jun 2016, 10:20#3
 Thats a bit harsh oom Mike. Steyn is looking fitter and has lost more weight than when he played for the sharks.
Another thing is his line breaks..... He doesnt make many as hes almost always double marked and gang tackled drawing in the defence.
Defensively I agree with you although I think its more to do with lateral speed than technique. 
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
18 Jun 2016, 11:01
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18 Jun 2016, 11:01#4
 I can't understand what people see in him.
If anyone can point me to some footage where this man actually does something wondrous on the field ... then please do so.
The only time I saw him actually play at a high standard was in 2007. Since then all I've seen of him is making a right twat of himself playing for the Barbarians and an assortment of iffi games where poor defensive efforts, going to ground with the ball, losing possession consistently, mor0nic drop attempts at the posts from deep within his own half and refusing to pass to a man in a better position was the order of the day.
That to me does not make a classy rugby player ... 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Jun 2016, 12:03
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18 Jun 2016, 12:03#5
Xavi - Steyn does look on TV a bit thinner than he did when he was with the Sharks when he weighed 118 kgs - but before games his weight is given as 115 kgs.   That is still grossly over-weight for an athlete.   At his height the ideal weight is 105 kgs.   I do not think he is that difficult to tackle, but his constant crashballing is certainly a case where more than one player would tackle him.  He is not breaking tackles much - he did 8 in 2014 under White and 9 in 2015 - making preciously little meter gains - so that also show he is not effective.    I still share Plumtree's comment made in 2013 that Steyn is no center - neither is he a flyhalf as well.   I personally think Steyn as a junior in 2007 mad a nice impression, but even then his defense was suspect - he missed 4 tackles in the WC Final as an example.   However, some juniors never make an improvement in senior rugby and Steyn went backwards from that time - he lost it as he got older.           

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XaviPro1,924 posts
18 Jun 2016, 12:14
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18 Jun 2016, 12:14#6
 No argument about his defence and Im not punting him for any team (CC) , just saying he's looking better is all.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
18 Jun 2016, 14:40
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18 Jun 2016, 14:40#7
 He was fantastic as fullback for the Boks in 2009. I still maintain 15 is his best position.
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