Just as I called it............Boshoff back to fullback, with the far more creative Jantjies at 10............good call Ackers
Captain30,741 posts
06 Mar 2014, 14:27
#1
06 Mar 2014, 14:27#1
Jantjies returns at 10
Started by Saffolk 37 REPLIES490 VIEWS· 06 Mar 2014, 14:27
Club Pro713 posts
06 Mar 2014, 14:35
#2
06 Mar 2014, 14:35#2
Interesting call, but you can bet your bottom dollar Jake will send a big runner down Jantjies throat. I don't question his ability ball-in-hand, unlike the other myths, Jantjies actually has a good feel for operating flat in front of the gainline. But then again this will help with the aerial battle. It looks like Ackers is preparing for a seige. Tactically a smart move, but not a poular one I would imagine, what with leaving out the Springbok incumbent and all that.
Captain49,914 posts
06 Mar 2014, 15:08
#3
06 Mar 2014, 15:08#3
Er Dave....the kudos go for results, not being selected. Jantjies will fail again.....but as long as Boshoff does the kicking, at least fans will be spared watching Jantjies bottle out as the pressure rises.
Pro6,277 posts
06 Mar 2014, 15:10
#4
06 Mar 2014, 15:10#4
i recon its a good call too, boshoffs boot has been real entertaining, but thats cos he was in a team who all pundits bar rooy had pegged for the wooden spoon.
while boshoff is solid, he dosent really have the attacking nous of goosen, lambie and even janties himself.
but if janties has a bad game, the wolves will be licking their lips.
really like the lions coach, plays to his teams strengths, unlike other coaches in the spXV.
while boshoff is solid, he dosent really have the attacking nous of goosen, lambie and even janties himself.
but if janties has a bad game, the wolves will be licking their lips.
really like the lions coach, plays to his teams strengths, unlike other coaches in the spXV.
Captain30,741 posts
06 Mar 2014, 15:17
#5
06 Mar 2014, 15:17#5
Yeah, Boshoff offers stuff all with ball in hand.....as Stransky and co correctly pointed out in the CC......Jantjies at 10 asked many more questions than Boshoff did.......Boshoff is another Morne, all he can do is kick.......has no creativity with ball in hand at all.
But saying that, he is a better rugby player than Morne, but just not nearly as good as Jantjies with ball in hand
Coach57,555 posts
06 Mar 2014, 15:50
#6
06 Mar 2014, 15:50#6
HURRAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Sharks love it when other teams donate generous presents to them - and Earl Silky Hands is the best present the Lions could ever have given them.
The Sharks love it when other teams donate generous presents to them - and Earl Silky Hands is the best present the Lions could ever have given them.
Coach57,555 posts
06 Mar 2014, 15:50
#7
06 Mar 2014, 15:50#7
HURRAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Sharks love it when other teams donate generous presents to them - and Earl Silky Hands is the best present the Lions could ever have given them.
The Sharks love it when other teams donate generous presents to them - and Earl Silky Hands is the best present the Lions could ever have given them.
Captain49,914 posts
06 Mar 2014, 16:02
#8
06 Mar 2014, 16:02#8
The question Jantjies asks of other teams is: do I run over him, round him or just ignore him altogether?
Coach57,555 posts
06 Mar 2014, 16:56
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06 Mar 2014, 16:56#9
Mozart
Spot on - even his team mates cut him out of their game in the Soweto test!!!!!
Spot on - even his team mates cut him out of their game in the Soweto test!!!!!
Club Pro713 posts
06 Mar 2014, 17:17
#10
06 Mar 2014, 17:17#10
We will see. The Brumbies ambushed him last year and failed, so it may not be such an easy thing. Though I do doubt him.
Captain30,741 posts
06 Mar 2014, 17:53
#11
06 Mar 2014, 17:53#11
Yep, its been some time since Jantjies had an issue with his defence, funny how some scribes conveniently choose to live in the past
Coach57,555 posts
06 Mar 2014, 19:51
#12
06 Mar 2014, 19:51#12
Saffex
It has been 5 months since Earl Silky Hands played his last game. Is that the "some time" you are referring to?
It has been 5 months since Earl Silky Hands played his last game. Is that the "some time" you are referring to?
sharkbok
Captain23,297 posts
Captain23,297 posts
06 Mar 2014, 22:57
#13
06 Mar 2014, 22:57#13
Jantjies is the worst defender in the SuperXV, he is worse than Naas Botha at tackling, although they both have the same approach of just falling over and hoping the opposition player just trips over them
Pro1,748 posts
06 Mar 2014, 23:02
#14
06 Mar 2014, 23:02#14
This is going to be a "Vasbyt" game for the Lions with that pivot at #10.
Lets see what he has left after Alberts takes him out the first time.
That's hoping he catches the ball whilst looking out for you know who!
Lets see what he has left after Alberts takes him out the first time.
That's hoping he catches the ball whilst looking out for you know who!
Captain30,741 posts
06 Mar 2014, 23:57
#15
06 Mar 2014, 23:57#15
DomMike what the hell do you know you sound as bloody stupid and ignorant as Sharktwat.......is it a Sharks thing that you pricks are so dim?
Coach57,555 posts
07 Mar 2014, 05:19
#16
07 Mar 2014, 05:19#16
Saffex
I would never call Earl Silky Hands who had a miss tackle ratio in excess of 20% in Super 15 last year as being even a reasonable defender. "ts been some time since Jantjies had an issue with his defence,"
BS - that is why I refer to the "some time" being during the past five months - since he was poor up to that time ..
I would never call Earl Silky Hands who had a miss tackle ratio in excess of 20% in Super 15 last year as being even a reasonable defender. "ts been some time since Jantjies had an issue with his defence,"
BS - that is why I refer to the "some time" being during the past five months - since he was poor up to that time ..
Pro1,870 posts
07 Mar 2014, 05:45
#17
07 Mar 2014, 05:45#17
Saff - kudo's on the call. Must say I am surprised Ackerman made this change. Sharks are a very "direct" team. Jantjies has underwhelmed me for most of his career but it would be great to see him play well after the tough year last year with the Stormers and the death of his dad which absolutely affected his play in my mind.
Captain18,570 posts
07 Mar 2014, 07:49
#18
07 Mar 2014, 07:49#18
I wish Jantjies well but as a distant observer he seems to be shaky as a player. I agree with those who question putting him on the field at 10 against the Sharks (hardly a soft entry back into the game). Plus, Boshof was doing well so what problem is the coach trying to fix?
Captain10,129 posts
07 Mar 2014, 07:58
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07 Mar 2014, 07:58#19
As a WP supporter I was well pleased to see him return north .......... nevertheless I wish him well & hopefully he's able to bliksem the guppies tomorrow .
Captain40,032 posts
07 Mar 2014, 09:28
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07 Mar 2014, 09:28#20
Well said bob - we are well served in being rid of jantjes.
The Sharks will win this. Jantjes will be under great pressure so lets see how he goes. To me he lacks mental tougness and he makes a lot of foolish moves some of which come off!Boschoff has been the most effective flyhalf in the comp thus far.
The Sharks will win this. Jantjes will be under great pressure so lets see how he goes. To me he lacks mental tougness and he makes a lot of foolish moves some of which come off!Boschoff has been the most effective flyhalf in the comp thus far.
Pro1,978 posts
07 Mar 2014, 09:52
#21
07 Mar 2014, 09:52#21
To me it looks as though Johan Ackerman is stressing out over 1 loss..Why change the team that has made a bit of history so far?
The Lions are playing the Sharks in Durban. Arguably the best SA team on current form. Why would you want to play the risk factor that is Jantjes when the best shot the Lions have of winning this is a kicking display that saw the Lions beat the Stormers? I dont see the Lions running in 20 points in tries. Their best bet is to keep the scoreboard ticking with some pot drop goals and Boshoff will need to be their man.
Look, I could be wrong and the Lions could come out and produce some slick, champagne rugby but I just dont see them toppling the Sharks. Not in Durban at least. They shouldn't anyway.
Course Dave thinks this is a master stroke by Johan Ackerman because Dave is a fuck wit! No more to be said. Just take a look at his take on guys like Habana and JDV..
The Lions are playing the Sharks in Durban. Arguably the best SA team on current form. Why would you want to play the risk factor that is Jantjes when the best shot the Lions have of winning this is a kicking display that saw the Lions beat the Stormers? I dont see the Lions running in 20 points in tries. Their best bet is to keep the scoreboard ticking with some pot drop goals and Boshoff will need to be their man.
Look, I could be wrong and the Lions could come out and produce some slick, champagne rugby but I just dont see them toppling the Sharks. Not in Durban at least. They shouldn't anyway.
Course Dave thinks this is a master stroke by Johan Ackerman because Dave is a fuck wit! No more to be said. Just take a look at his take on guys like Habana and JDV..
Club Pro713 posts
07 Mar 2014, 12:42
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07 Mar 2014, 12:42#22
The Lions are going to firstly try to negate the battle for field osition, hence the selection of Boschoff at 15 and another capable kicker at 10; they are loading their backline for a kicking dual, very wise! Next they are going to out scrap the Sharks at the breakdown and degenerate the game into a street fight. If they can disrupt the Shark's flow of possession and upset their structures then they stand a chance of picking them off with the boot or notching the odd try if it comes about.
"Jantjies is the worst defender in the SuperXV, he is worse than Naas Botha at tackling, although they both have the same approach of just falling over and hoping the opposition player just trips over them"
@Sharkbok: The very worst? Goosen has yet to dominate ONE contact situation in his entire senior career to date! He is the worst player I have ever seen in contact, period. And I mean that literally.
"Jantjies is the worst defender in the SuperXV, he is worse than Naas Botha at tackling, although they both have the same approach of just falling over and hoping the opposition player just trips over them"
@Sharkbok: The very worst? Goosen has yet to dominate ONE contact situation in his entire senior career to date! He is the worst player I have ever seen in contact, period. And I mean that literally.
Pro1,978 posts
07 Mar 2014, 13:18
#23
07 Mar 2014, 13:18#23
Sun-Tzu, all very well in theory but its not like the Lions only have to halt the Sharks forwards. The Sharks are superior to the Lions from numbers 1 through 23 and the Sharks forwards wont just allow the Lions to dictate terms. Lions might find themselves getting bullied if they try that tactic or otherwise, blown out the game at every turn.
Lions dont enjoy a great record against the Sharks having won just once in Super rugby. They will need a lot of luck and the Sharks to be badly off their game to win this one. If the Sharks do not win convincingly here, we are not the champion team we are thought to be!
Stranger things have happened but like I said, the Sharks should win this game relatively comfortably if they pitch up to play!If we are off our game, there can be an upset but I think the Sharks will be hungry to play again after a very early bye week.
Lions dont enjoy a great record against the Sharks having won just once in Super rugby. They will need a lot of luck and the Sharks to be badly off their game to win this one. If the Sharks do not win convincingly here, we are not the champion team we are thought to be!
Stranger things have happened but like I said, the Sharks should win this game relatively comfortably if they pitch up to play!If we are off our game, there can be an upset but I think the Sharks will be hungry to play again after a very early bye week.
Club Pro713 posts
07 Mar 2014, 13:26
#24
07 Mar 2014, 13:26#24
They have to front up to the challenge, and that means playing to their strengths and using their resources. If they heed your post they won't even bother turning up at all, and that's no way to meet this challenge! The Sharks have all the tools at hand, but the Lions do have a genuine presence at ruck time and they do have the kickers to fight the aerial battle. The Lions managed to handle a Bulls pack that comprehensively out muscled the Sharks! Ackers is on the right track regardless of the result. He sees the threat and has proactively done something about it. I think the Lions will have their moments.
Coach57,555 posts
07 Mar 2014, 13:35
#25
07 Mar 2014, 13:35#25
Sun Tzu
The real player at flyhalf avoiding contact at ALL costs is Morne Steyn. That is why he NEVER attacks the gain line and his tackle stats are way below par.
The real player at flyhalf avoiding contact at ALL costs is Morne Steyn. That is why he NEVER attacks the gain line and his tackle stats are way below par.
Club Pro713 posts
07 Mar 2014, 13:38
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07 Mar 2014, 13:38#26
Your tackle statistics were exposed long ago and Morné plays much flatter. Hell, I even posted a video where he avoided the pass against New Zealand because of team-mate obstruction, he ran it right into heavy traffic. Michael you're little campaign against Morné is an embarrassment! Every word that comes out of your mouth is a lie, almost all have been directly exposed.
Coach57,555 posts
07 Mar 2014, 22:54
#27
07 Mar 2014, 22:54#27
Sun Tzu
And every time you open your mouth the shit flows like lava from it. I do not have a campaign against Morne - I just write the truth and not fairy tales about what he actually produces on the field of play.
A mediocre flyhalf with only one asset - his goal kicking.
And every time you open your mouth the shit flows like lava from it. I do not have a campaign against Morne - I just write the truth and not fairy tales about what he actually produces on the field of play.
A mediocre flyhalf with only one asset - his goal kicking.
Pro1,978 posts
08 Mar 2014, 12:08
#28
08 Mar 2014, 12:08#28
Come again Sun-Tzu.?? You lost me at ...the Lions handled the Bulls pack and the Sharks never...You do realise the Sharks won very easily and the Lions scored a consolation try in the death to bring respectability to the scoreline...
I think you will find that the Sharks were dominant on the day.
I think you will find that the Sharks were dominant on the day.
Club Pro713 posts
08 Mar 2014, 12:25
#29
08 Mar 2014, 12:25#29
The Bulls were physically running over the Sharks. Had the Bulls posed any kind of threat ball-in-hand it would have been a fearesome contest, the cSharks won comfortably on the scoreboard because they hung on in the face of repeated heavy drives and picked them off from turnovers. The Sharks in no way dominated the Bulls pack. Then we had the Lions who comprehensively out scraped the Bulls, the turned it into a dog fight. What have we learned from this? The Lions have a very real capacity to disrupt possession. It doesn't matter how fantastic you are in the backs, if the quality of possession diminishes, your ball presentation suffers, your attack becomes slow, the defence resets strongly, you have more kicking... it's a chain reaction and I have seen it time and time again. The odds are firmly against the Lions but it would be foolish to disregard what I have stated. I doubt very much Jake would be so lax in his preparations as you would be.
Club Pro580 posts
08 Mar 2014, 12:41
#30
08 Mar 2014, 12:41#30
Tbh yeah,Jantjies isn't that bad.Last year wasn't a good year for him with the loss of his father and every one could see the impact it made.The problem how ever is that he cant cross the barrier in to big game pressure.He crumbles when the heat is turned on.It us why he failed at test level cause he panicked.Every one could see it.If he can beat that,then yeah he will be really good.But we will see.Like Sun Tzu siad,JW is gonna send every monster he has down Jantjies'es way.AKA Alberts,Kankovski and Coetzee.All in all...I wish the guy all the best.
sharkbok
Captain23,297 posts
Captain23,297 posts
08 Mar 2014, 21:02
#31
08 Mar 2014, 21:02#31
What a joke
Coach57,555 posts
08 Mar 2014, 21:39
#32
08 Mar 2014, 21:39#32
The sooner the Lions forget about Jantjies at 10 - the better it will be for them. While he was flyhalf the Lions backline really was nit functioning properly - when Boshoff took over at flyhalf the backline performances improved drastically.
Captain40,032 posts
08 Mar 2014, 21:50
#33
08 Mar 2014, 21:50#33
Exactly so Mike. I think snapsters excuse will be jatjes has been out for a while.Ackermann should only play Jantjes if Boschoff needs a rest
Coach57,555 posts
09 Mar 2014, 03:57
#34
09 Mar 2014, 03:57#34
Jantjies proved me wrong. He only missed nearly half of all attempted tackles (43%) - I thought it would be 70%
Club Pro580 posts
09 Mar 2014, 22:39
#35
09 Mar 2014, 22:39#35
saffuck...
When your in a hole,stop digging mate!!!
Or come and try to convince us all how good jantjies is some more...LOLOLOLOLOL
I need to a few more laughs!!!
Pro1,978 posts
10 Mar 2014, 04:24
#36
10 Mar 2014, 04:24#36
Sun-Tzu, never would I be lax in my preparations buddy. Not in super rugby. There is no easy game here. That is a fact. Any team can beat any other team in the comp on their night. Look at the Force this past weekend. You would have been a rich man just betting against the Rebels after their showing against the Cheetahs and the Force's poor start nevermind if you bet the Force would be ahead by 32 points in the first half or win the game by 25 points!
Whilst their are no easy games, you still have teams that you are more confident against. Sometimes its due to a combination of things like where you play, current form of both teams, injuries to key personnel and so forth. All I am saying is that the Sharks had so much more in their favour. Lions have a poor record against them, they were playing in Durban, they were fresh of a break so chomping at the bit to be in action again as the break was way too soon, personnel wise, Sharks have a far beeter roster and depth.
All these factors come into play and I felt a comfortable win was on the cards..Please dont mistake that for complacency. I always knew the Sharks would prepare well as Jake is all about preparation.
I honestly felt like a 25 point win for the Sharks would have been par. Sharks let themselves down in the last 20 there but still far too good for the Lions.
Sun-Tzu, can you say I was wrong?
Captain30,741 posts
10 Mar 2014, 14:44
#37
10 Mar 2014, 14:44#37
Geeeez CHICKEN you still lurking speaking a load of shit still........go take a leap of faith
Pro1,748 posts
10 Mar 2014, 16:41
#38
10 Mar 2014, 16:41#38
Boshoff is definetly the Lions first choice at #10.
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