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JJ does it again

Started by Mozart21 REPLIES298 VIEWS· 29 Mar 2014, 23:58
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Mar 2014, 23:58
#1
29 Mar 2014, 23:58#1

JJ was invisible again....Serfonten very visible charging into the first tackle and falling down. Then we get to the end of the game. The chiefs launch a run from the penalty, two Bools are chasing the Chiefs break away...one of which is JJ. The other Bool makes the crucial tackle...JJ needs to prevent a potential next runner. But he falls over the tackled player for no good reason. But thankfully has time to get up, but then misses Cruden. Goodbye Bools win.


What a pathetic centre pairing.

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Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
30 Mar 2014, 12:58
#2
30 Mar 2014, 12:58#2
He has no rugby brain. Looks like a school kid still learning about the game in my opinion. Fourie on the other hand is a thinker, the only centre we've had that can completely read an attacking movement and stop it dead by doing the unorthodox. That's what we have been missing in his absence most. The smart running was a bonus. You will never have a WC winning defence with JJ, it's impossible. Serfontein looks average, a lesser player than Olivier in his day. All in all the Bulls have gone backwards in the centres. Now they have a stable 10 there can be no excuse about their inability to spark anything.
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
30 Mar 2014, 14:47
#3
30 Mar 2014, 14:47#3
 Huh, how fickle. 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Mar 2014, 16:03
#4
30 Mar 2014, 16:03#4

Fickle? Hell I never wanted JJ at 13 and in Serfontein' case I was at best an agnostic. At one point I thought JJ had some potential on the wing, but now I'd rather have Basson....at least he has the vision to make a contribution at times. As for Serfontein an inside step and crash ball is hardly going to worry top defences. Time to move on, and if that's being "fickle" so be it.

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
30 Mar 2014, 16:15
#5
30 Mar 2014, 16:15#5
 Huh, how contradictory. 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Mar 2014, 16:23
#6
30 Mar 2014, 16:23#6
Ag ou Shezza, I told you last year JJ was a waste of time. My advice, stop clinging on....no pun intended.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Mar 2014, 16:31
#7
30 Mar 2014, 16:31#7
 Mozart
In the last two tests played by De Jongh he went AWOL and was absolutely useless - so why do you advise others to move on and you do not?   
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Mar 2014, 16:41
#8
30 Mar 2014, 16:41#8
 I agree that Engelbrecht is not the answer to our center problem and neither is Serfontein.  The latter had a promising start as an Under 20 player - but something has gone amiss in his case.
However, our problem foes wider than that - Francois Steyn is even worse than Serfontein as a center - yet you keep on advocating that he should be considered for selection.
Please get real - none of the three centers mentioned will produce the goods and neither will past it Fourie.   Can you ever imagine a more useless dead backline than the following:-
*   Rugby dead head and useless defender Morne Steyn*   Useless defender and no attacker Francois Steyn*   Useless attacking player slow motion Jacques Fourie
We can have the best wings and full back in world rugby and the backline will be as dead as a doornail - with the hope that there are not too many attacks through the channel  
 
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
30 Mar 2014, 17:58
#9
30 Mar 2014, 17:58#9
 I'm not talking about JJ, but either player you're contradicting yourself in one form or another.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Mar 2014, 18:36
#10
30 Mar 2014, 18:36#10
Oompie you are a major sick- ou  
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Mar 2014, 18:41
#11
30 Mar 2014, 18:41#11
Mozart
So what am I suffering from?  Realism?
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Mar 2014, 19:01
#12
30 Mar 2014, 19:01#12
No you are suffering from an overwhelming need to be right  
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Mar 2014, 21:39
#13
30 Mar 2014, 21:39#13
 JJ must move to wing where he has a future. Serfontein has been spolit by bulle coaching.He used to see space well and set up players around him. He still could come right as he learns his trade at the highest level.
I am a bit worrried about Jean who has not played with much spark this season. He needs a break of say 3 months ala wee mcaaaw.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Mar 2014, 21:45
#14
30 Mar 2014, 21:45#14
I agree Jean needs a break....the Stormers are without hope this season, give him a sabbatical for the rest of the S15  
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Mar 2014, 14:13
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31 Mar 2014, 14:13#15

Ah yeah the usual predictable crap about JJ and Serfontein........let me guess, Jean, de Jongh, Frans and Sithole were game breakers were they?

 

 

Geez Moz get a grip. Jean and Frans have done stuff all for about 3 games in a row now......de Jongh was exposed for the little rag doll that he is and Sithole had as much opportunity as Serfontein and JJ did.......its called perspective, something you have no idea about.

 

 

Next time you decide to dump on JJ and Serfontein, do it when you have something concrete to back yourself up with. By concrete, I mean it would help to point out the examples set by established centres like Frans and Jean ........your take carries no weight at all

 

 

Fact is the SA centres saw very little ball  

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Mar 2014, 15:24
#16
31 Mar 2014, 15:24#16
Fact is de Jongh made a brilliant break and saved a try with a brilliant low tackle from behind.....but JJ missed Cruden to lose the game and did nothing e lse. And that's the truth.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Mar 2014, 16:06
#17
31 Mar 2014, 16:06#17

Brilliant break, a little step and then cocked it up......he was beaten with easy early on with the attacker running straight through him.

 

 

In contact he was man handled for the little guy he is.....something we keep pointing out. de Jongh is a liability

 

 

JJ did not miss Cruden, he was on his knees........usual rubbish written about the guy  

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Mar 2014, 16:59
#18
31 Mar 2014, 16:59#18
He got up off his knees..... he shouldn't have been on his knees in the first place ....and then missed Cruden. Same old tired excuses for another JJ balls up that lost the clean win.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Mar 2014, 18:01
#19
31 Mar 2014, 18:01#19
Ah so he just fell on his knees for the sake of it then......as you do when playing the game at the highest level.......try again Moz......sounds about as accurate as JJ being responsible for the Barrett try.........its all a load of rubbish  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Mar 2014, 18:22
#20
31 Mar 2014, 18:22#20

Dave will your defence of this perfectly porous player never cease. He runs back with another Bools player who makes the crucial tackle to stop the Chiefs break. JJ is first to the breakdown. He either has to slow the ball down or not commit and make the next tackle. He does neither.....he falls over the ruck without slowing the ball one iota. As the ball comes out he gets up and makes a tackle attempt on Cruden....makes full contact but misses.....try.

 

It was a pathetic, inept bit of rugby, completely unacceptable for a Bok 13....highest level, hahahaha, highest level of incompetence maybe.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Mar 2014, 19:32
#21
31 Mar 2014, 19:32#21

Porous you say, I think you will find that his defensive stats are probably the best of all the SA centres this S15 thus far.......go check the stats.

 

 

He could not have tackled Cruden as he was on his knees - your take is a load rubbish

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Mar 2014, 19:40
#22
31 Mar 2014, 19:40#22

No your take is a load of stinking bias.

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