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Joe v Niekerk living in the jungle

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Apr 2020, 17:28
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09 Apr 2020, 17:28#1
Nice one Big Joe Jungle-living ex-Springbok van Niekerk outlines extraordinary view on recreational drugs in rugby Jungle-living ex-Springbok van Niekerk outlines extraordinary view on recreational drugs in rugby Ex-Springbok Joe van Niekerk claims that rugby should stop punishing players who take recreational drugs. The 39-year-old, who earned the last of his 52 South African caps in 2010, finished his club career at Toulon in 2014 and has since embraced a new-age lifestyle in the Costa Rican jungle. Asked by French rugby bi-weekly Midi Olympique if doping was widespread in the game during his career, the ex-back row said: “I don’t believe in an organised doping system in rugby but there have always been recreational drugs and frankly, I believe that the rugby authorities should be more lenient with regard to these behaviours. “Suspending a player for six months or a year because he or she took cocaine in the evening seems like an exaggeration. Rather than whipping and destroying, we should accompany the players, reach out to them, help them. “We s*** so much s*** after the games: sleeping pills, tramadol (a muscle relaxant)… do you really think it’s good for the body? And yet it is completely legal and widespread. But what bothers me most is seeing alcohol at the centre of everything in rugby. “We drank litres and litres of beer, me first. However, there is nothing worse after a rugby match: it freezes the blood, it tires, it dehydrates and it slows healing. But alcohol is a part of everyday life in our sport and its lobbies even finance the biggest competitions.” What would van Niekerk’s alternative be? “In these mountains, there are a million plants, including cannabis, that can help athletes recover from their efforts. But before it gets down to business, before the pharmaceutical lobbies free the world from their grip, I’m afraid we have time to die twice. Do you realise that we live in a world still afraid of the power of plants? It’s ridiculous…” When the end came for van Niekerk’s stellar career, he felt nothing but emptiness and it was only when he moved to the Costa Rican wilds that he began to move on with purpose. “The day I ended my rugby career, I felt like a void. I asked myself a question: ‘Who am I now that someone has taken away my life for 20 years?’ Because glory, medals, money and autographs are just an illusion. When everything stops, there are only memories, dust. “I thought to myself, ‘I’ve been thinking about myself for 15 years, it’s time to help others.’ With my girlfriend Marie, we wanted to be connected with nature, trees, plants and animals. We both knew Costa Rica. We knew how powerful his nature was. So we decided to drop everything to settle there. “This valley of Tinamaste is sacred territory, strewn with vestiges of disappeared civilisations. Above all, this place lists the greatest shamans on the planet. With Marie, we bought a piece of land to make it a huge organic farm. “Soon we will be able to live in total autonomy, consuming only the vegetables and fruits of our land, drinking pure water from the two springs that flow under our feet… until 2014, I had everything done for me. “Today I’m under construction. I’m learning marketing, accounting, farming. I learn how to keep a vegetable garden, feed chickens, speak Spanish. I have a life of a man,” he explained, adding that he hopes the valley in Costa Rica will potentially become a place for rugby teams to visit. “All kinds of people visit – business owners, musicians, painters and backpackers. We even host business seminars. In the future, I would very much like to receive rugby teams in pre-season training. In the Tinamaste valley, time allows for a break: we read, we meditate, we drink tea in front of the Andes mountain range while listening to monkeys. And then there are the healing ceremonies.”
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
09 Apr 2020, 17:45
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09 Apr 2020, 17:45#2

I encountered his lifestyle change quite a few years ago. For a time he seemed to have disappeared entirely. It's good to see him in a happy space. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Apr 2020, 17:49
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09 Apr 2020, 17:49#3

Incredible story.....we all connect with the planet sometimes, I remember that sense on Table Mountain with a 60 mph wind pouring over the top. But Joe takes it to a different level, I hope it works out!

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Apr 2020, 18:12
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09 Apr 2020, 18:12#4
I could easily live that life I semi live it now - could never live next door to someone ever again!! My nearest neighbour is miles away
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
09 Apr 2020, 18:19
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09 Apr 2020, 18:19#5

Going off-grid would be my is my dream. I don't know if you've ever seen it, but there's a YouTuber from Canada who built his own cabin etc in a forest, he details his day-to-day activities. You may be interested: 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIMXKin1fXXCeq2UJePJEog

There's another channel on learning the skills to live off the land. Making a forgery, mining and smelting ores, making tools, subsisting off the land. It's called Primitive Technology.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Apr 2020, 18:47
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09 Apr 2020, 18:47#6

Your neighbors thank you Dave...haha! I prefer seeing the world around me.....but from a distance.

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
09 Apr 2020, 19:14
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09 Apr 2020, 19:14#7
In general authorities should take a different approach to drugs, Portugal seem to have a good idea.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Apr 2020, 20:34
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09 Apr 2020, 20:34#8
Very true Moz Aug there is a programme on our Sky discovery channel which is called - Building off the grid - it tracks the builds from start to finish There is also the Alaskan Bushpeople - but their programme has become commercialised and most of the family are a bunch of retards
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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
09 Apr 2020, 21:27
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09 Apr 2020, 21:27#9

That Canadian sure knew how to work with wood Ag,the camerawork was just as good.

Just finished reading "The Stranger in the Woods"    which is about a fella who lived 27 years on his own(world record).Never did he have a conversation with anyone for almost three decades.

The most intriguing part is him waking up in winter at 2:30am every morning and pacing the perimeter of his clearing in the woods while melting snow for drinking water on his stove.Boggles the mind he never got frostbite.I've witnessed something vaguely similar of an african out at Currys Post one year.He would tiptoe around his fire and pick the pot off the fire with his bare hands.Must have had huge calluses on his hands,same as this Stranger probably did on his feet.






AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
10 Apr 2020, 20:32
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10 Apr 2020, 20:32#10

The Alaskan Bush folks is a BS story as are numerous other TV specials on "Living off-grid"  or "House renovation" experts.

Specials made for TV and the Snowflakes.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,234 posts
10 Apr 2020, 21:13
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10 Apr 2020, 21:13#11



PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
11 Apr 2020, 08:31
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11 Apr 2020, 08:31#12

Hippies

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
11 Apr 2020, 10:35
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11 Apr 2020, 10:35#13

I've now posted three replies to this thread. 

I keep deleting them bec ause i fear, even for me, it keeps coming out a tad harsh.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
11 Apr 2020, 10:42
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11 Apr 2020, 10:42#14

Just let it be what it is boet. 

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
11 Apr 2020, 11:49
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11 Apr 2020, 11:49#15

Whatever jungle Joe's at is undoubtedly much safer than any SA city, town or dorp .......................... my 6 degrees of separation, re Joe van........ its '05, Bokke .v. ABs  at a sold out Newlands, I'm back home from NZ & desperate..... an hour before kickoff & I'm outside with my ticket please bordjie,  I exchange the customary pleasantries/bollocks with the passing parade, including the one & only Joost, there on commentary duty.........,..,. plus as a bonus this elegant ou tannie, who approaches me saying, 'hello, Joe v Niekerk's  my grandson & I do hope that you get a ticket.'

I got a ticket & we beat our mighty foe .

Bravo Joe & your beautiful ouma.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
11 Apr 2020, 11:50
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11 Apr 2020, 11:50#16

Plum, why I kept quiet myself. "Hippy" was the first thing that sprang to mind...although it's opposite of my outlook on life, there's alot of positives about their view of life.

Had a friend (back in the day during Stilbaai holidays...Dylon) who's parents were hippies. Both Medical doctors. Dad some sort of professor and the mom also a highly rated specialist in her field.

He and his sister were both brought up that way, but both turned out more conservative...very serious kids...and very responsible. Didn't touch anything stronger than tobacco or beer and even that in moderation.  I think he was a bit religious too...early 90's. Won't mind leading a simple hippy-like life at Stilbaai...go holiday somewhere quiet every Easter and Christmas...to avoid the madness.  

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
11 Apr 2020, 12:02
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11 Apr 2020, 12:02#17

Blob. 97 Currie Cup final vs Vrystaat....first one in ages at Newlands. Had 4 tickets extra. Couldn't sell them outside. Struggled to get someone to give it away to. Gave it to some street kids....not sure if they let them in.

I went in some private/player entrance ...steep stairs leading up to private bar or pub or something.

Had a beer with Dirk Hanekom and Gary Pagel...both played an earlier opening game....and WP won!...first CC since the draw in 89 and first all out win since 85...fantastic day out!

Sorry for going OffT on my nostalgia journey...

SE
SebPro2,680 posts
12 Apr 2020, 17:04
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12 Apr 2020, 17:04#18

Something I understand and could quite easily do it if circumstances permit...stems from childhood and many happy accounts of camping, living off hunting and fishing with my brother and friend , just with pup tent, sleeping bags, rifle and fishing gear. Mum tried to motherhen us with a few groceries etc but we only took cooldrinks, tea and coffee and some biscuits and rye bread. We ate turtle doves, partridge and guinea fowl sometimes and fish and eels.

Poor kids today don't know what life is about. These were halcyon days.

PS this is a good movie, really a magnificent one for adventurers.

https://youtu.be/g7ArZ7VD-QQ



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