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Johan Goosen

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BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
30 Sept 2022, 18:52
#1
30 Sept 2022, 18:52#1

Bulls are as we speak (30 sept) playing against Connact.

Lets see how Goosen performs as a potential to solve Rassie's problems at 10.

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
30 Sept 2022, 19:10
#2
30 Sept 2022, 19:10#2

Goosen has got talent....hope the man can stay fit and without injury....and my opinion is, that it would take way more than Goosen to solve Rassie, s Problems....what baffles me is there  reluctance to create player Depth + not fine tuning there Gameplan and approach to the Game of Rugby.... there is so many facets to Rugby and not only Stampkar/kick.... They rather stick with players that has had there time in the lime light.....its like the 2 of them are under a spell of sort as it is common sense to build for the future and  maintain your infrastructure.....fast asleep in la la Bok Land.....SA Rugby at the Moment reminds me to much of SA,s  Government state of Disaster....Where Mediocre and Ludicrous, gets Celebrated....for me it gets more and more difficult to support the Boks as all of it feels fake.

MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
30 Sept 2022, 19:36
#3
30 Sept 2022, 19:36#3

Man this forgotten fullback? Hahahaha! I love it... Harpies suffering a famine of talent! Have fun boys!.... Goosen... God damn! XD

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
30 Sept 2022, 20:08
#4
30 Sept 2022, 20:08#4

just got yellow. 

BL
BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
30 Sept 2022, 20:14
#5
30 Sept 2022, 20:14#5

That yellow makes me feel puking. 

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
30 Sept 2022, 20:41
#6
30 Sept 2022, 20:41#6

he was sub standard in his day ...

 now hes just an older version of that sub standard state.

I cannot believe you guys are actually looking at him as your potential saviour.

madness.


MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
30 Sept 2022, 21:02
#7
30 Sept 2022, 21:02#7

Yarpies moved on quickly from Black de Lindy. Fickle bunch of losers. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Oct 2022, 02:08
#8
01 Oct 2022, 02:08#8

What would the biggest disaster for SA Rugby will be is when CC, Tit-face and Mozart ever select a Springbok team and especially players in certain positions.   They criticize every live player and when they never suggest alternatives - because the empty and rugby idiocy - can never come up with anything.

Take for instance the display of Steyn last week at flyhalf.   It was for a variety of reasons a total disaster bar kicks at goal.    He was incapable of even such simple issues like penalty line kicks and all his kicking game was just a means to set up counter-attacks by the Argentinians - in other words the kicking was neither strategic nor effective.    His normal slow decision-making at flyhalf neutralized totally the functioning of the backline from an attacking perspective.     

Steyn failed in virtually all facets of flyhalf performance and the contributions made by the three was typical - they attacked the most efficient performing backline player in the Springbok team and they defended the inadequacy of Steyn.      Their contributions were the signs of rugby idiocy.

Now back to the real topic of this thread.   Goosen yesterday showed that he is a natural flyhalf and not a dummy like Steyn.   With Goosen was on the field the backline functioned properly - both from an attacking and defensive perspective - that was clearly illustrated when a Steyn duplicate - namely Smit replaced him.   A charged down kick by Steyn last week fortunately for the Springboks never led to a try - this week the same caused Connacht to score a try.   

Goosen's problem always was that he was injury-prone.  If he stays uninjured and the poor form of Pollard continues - Goosen is the only older player that could perform at flyhalf - Jantjies is BS and although ten times better than anybody else in contention - Goosen would be the only real alternative to fill the flyhalf position, with Willemse as the back-up player.   The alternative would be to get Wolhuter and  Ngomezulu into the mix asap. .                  

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Oct 2022, 05:28
#9
01 Oct 2022, 05:28#9

Johan Goosen is a choker….in a WC final he’d be a basket case. In 2007 Eddie Jones worked with the incumbents and dramatically improved their performance….there wasn’t a wholesale bloodletting. 

I don’t know if Dud Allende is coachable, but the rest….Hendricks, Pollard, Am and the wings can all find another gear. That will require somebody other Stick.

BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
01 Oct 2022, 07:23
#10
01 Oct 2022, 07:23#10
A score will be nice ...... please .
BL
BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
01 Oct 2022, 07:48
#11
01 Oct 2022, 07:48#11

blobbie, Bulls won 28 - 14 

BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
01 Oct 2022, 07:57
#12
01 Oct 2022, 07:57#12

Bakgat & dankie Blikkies

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Oct 2022, 08:00
#13
01 Oct 2022, 08:00#13

Mozart

As per normal you bring up De Allende as not being coachable - but a flyhalf who is a total wreck and not coachable it is Steyn.    Maybe he is - but his decision-making and execution is slow and  weird.    

Goosen had a good game yesterday and is a natural flyhalf - which Steyn is not.   Pollard now has a near to 2 year stretch of being out of form  - and both he and Etzebeth were so poor on club level and out  because of injuries that their clubs  did not even used then and now palmed them off to other clubs.     So will Pollard recover his form - I hope so - but if he does not where t in flyhalf selection?              

MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
01 Oct 2022, 08:03
#14
01 Oct 2022, 08:03#14

Goosen is a fullback. Can he even defend? Will he pull his arse muscles putting his shorts on? Play the douche... I love watching yarpies being humbled. 

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
01 Oct 2022, 10:07
#15
01 Oct 2022, 10:07#15

Goosen was not bad in his first game and distributes well with accurate passing

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Oct 2022, 10:12
#16
01 Oct 2022, 10:12#16

Dim  shitface.   Goossn played for Racing Metro as no 14 center and in 2016 was voted by the French plauers as the player of the year in Ftance.   He is ten times the defender Morne and Frans Steyn ever was and will ever be.

But defense is just one element in flyhaf play - the most important aspect is taking options facilitating attacking play by the team and best measures in putting the opposition un der pressure,  Carter was a master in doing that using kicking for instance as a strategic attacking option - neither Morne nor France know what strategic kicking entails.   Neither of them could get a backline operational in any way in atatcks.   Theya re too slow-thinking to take realistic options anyway.      .

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Oct 2022, 10:20
#17
01 Oct 2022, 10:20#17
Goosen was good got his centres into space with great passing Solid performance from a class act
MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
01 Oct 2022, 10:29
#18
01 Oct 2022, 10:29#18

I hope he plays for the Blocks... it's going to give me months of laughter. 

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
01 Oct 2022, 12:23
#19
01 Oct 2022, 12:23#19

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Goosen falls under the same big ego players like Quade Cooper and James O Conner. All 3 stuffed up their careers and talent with big egos. 

They all have been humbled and now finally playing for the team.

I rate Goosen. He dismantled the Boks last year when the Bulls faced the boks before the Lions test match.

It is only his 2nd game of the season and after 9 months out. Will be looking forward to his other games.

Let's see if 3 more games can get him match sharp before we jump on the Goosen bandwagon for the boks 

MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
01 Oct 2022, 12:54
#20
01 Oct 2022, 12:54#20

Dismantled the crappy Block defence. Wow now there's a mark of excellence... not! Need some perspective and a good dose of reality. 

BL
BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
01 Oct 2022, 20:58
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01 Oct 2022, 20:58#21


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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Oct 2022, 00:30
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02 Oct 2022, 00:30#22
Jake is a huge fan of Goosen
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Oct 2022, 06:28
#23
02 Oct 2022, 06:28#23

So Johan Goosen…..dropped pass with a break on, a kick directly into touch, a yellow card for a head butt tackle and a horrible missed tackle on the ‘try’ that was called back for a forward pass. And almost nothing except standard  passing and kicking in the positive basket.

And this was a ‘solid performance from a class act’. And yet when Frans made some of these errors with much more by way of positives…he was awful.

The anointed remain anointed….facts be damned.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Oct 2022, 06:48
#24
02 Oct 2022, 06:48#24

Mozart's description of what happens in games is always a  distortion and always deficient or outright lies.     For every mistake by Goosen - Steyn made 4 worse mistakes - but he will never admit the latter.     So let's analyze the BS.    First of all one kick directly into touch was  a mortal mistake by Goosen - three penalty line kicks missed by Steyn were so bad that he was replaced by Le Roux to make kicks because of Steyn's inaccuracy - but that was never mentioned by Mozart - not a word of the latter in any of his comments.

The yellow card was a farce - the way the player carried the ball was such that it was an accident.   The carrier was absolved and Goosen punished for a play that could at best be described as an accident caused by the carrier of Goosen and idiocy by the carrier.    The referee yesterday was a disaster anyway - where do they find the monkeys to referee the URC matches? 

The pass quality of the catch missed by Goosen was poor and Mozart missed that completely. .

 I would rather believe White on the issue of Goosen than a prejudiced prick.            

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Oct 2022, 14:05
#25
02 Oct 2022, 14:05#25
Moz you should listen to your hero Jake he thinks Goosen is next level Comparing the pedantic, slow and agility lacking Frans to the crisp Goosen is a joke Frans was fucking embarrassing at 10 for the Boks and that’s a fact
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Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
02 Oct 2022, 14:15
#26
02 Oct 2022, 14:15#26

Hoew about ythis you turd stain... think for YOURSELF you dumpy little herd arse creeper. The only embarrassment is YOU and your little Thelma and Louise pariah... Mike . 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Oct 2022, 16:55
#27
02 Oct 2022, 16:55#27
I love that, it’s the runner’s fault he was head butted….he should have ducked. It was the passer’s fault Goosen didn’t adjust to the pass, even though the passer had 2 tacklers all over him. It was Frans’ fault Goosen banged the ball into touch, Goosen was just channeling him……and it was the runner’s fault Goosen overran the tackle, he shouldn’t have changed direction.
The cupboard is so bare Goosen may be the only option….but it is not a cause for celebration.
By the way if Frans has lost pace Goosen seems a lot slower, he was quick as a youngster.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Oct 2022, 16:58
#28
02 Oct 2022, 16:58#28
Moz are you implying Frans is quicker than Goosen ?????
MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
02 Oct 2022, 17:00
#29
02 Oct 2022, 17:00#29

Bilbo .. do us all a favour and stick your hobbit feet back into your mouth. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Oct 2022, 17:16
#30
02 Oct 2022, 17:16#30

Nope…. I try not to imply, it’s so irritating.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Oct 2022, 17:51
#31
02 Oct 2022, 17:51#31
Your support for old Fransie is admirable - we all know he was super shit at 10 in that last test - embarrassingly so but you still try convince us otherwise Joke is on you bud but hey ho, you have absolutely zero chance of convincing us otherwise other than the attention seeking twat who no one gives a fuck about Goosen has yet to fire but has been solid - he has been out of the game for 10 months
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Oct 2022, 17:57
#32
02 Oct 2022, 17:57#32

And will be out again…he is made of papier-mâché.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Oct 2022, 20:27
#33
02 Oct 2022, 20:27#33
That is a distinct possibility
MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
03 Oct 2022, 00:37
#34
03 Oct 2022, 00:37#34

It's either Jordan Hendrickse or Libbok that should fill the 10 spot....dont know if Elton will be back or how soon....and Goosen can be really Good but quite fragile that is true. 

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
03 Oct 2022, 17:11
#35
03 Oct 2022, 17:11#35

Mpower, Hendrickse has dropped down the pecking order behind Lombardi. Right now Libbok is the most complete 10 in SA and on form, but will not suite in the Bok setup as he is not a strategic kicking flyhalve and probable won't be as effective. 

Goosen is still not pinning his would be defenders and telegraphs his passes although some of them are good. Also poor judgement right now when it come to game management. Needs to get his confidence up and get over the injury scare. 



MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
03 Oct 2022, 17:27
#36
03 Oct 2022, 17:27#36

Block 10s aren't strategic kickers, thats the Blocks 9s job. Block 10s are little links with pods and dumb backs when the Blocks want to get seriazz. 

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