Johan Sadie for Bok 13?

Shezza
Johann Sadie was by a long way the best 13 we have seen on display this year in any SA franchise.  He is a key player in the Cheetahs backline which on their own scored as many tries as the Sharks did in total and more than the Lions, Bulls and Stormers franchises scored.
Unlike most of the other SA no 13 Centers he is playing a thinking game and that makes him different.  
What really surprised me is the progress he made at 13 playing for the Cheetahs - he went nowhere playing for the Bulls at 13 - so there must be something in his coaching and natural abilities that is coming through now.   As I said previously - the Bulls is the graveyard for all centers.   The sooner Engelbrecht and Serfontein get away from them - the better it would be for their careers.  
 

 Cheaser he would not let a Bok side down. His defence is good and he is a brainy centre. If he keeps going like he has he could well come into the reckoning. I also like Jordaan and he will be making his way back as well.Barring injuries Meyer can pick avery good backline with heaps of attacking flair.
Reinach, Sarel Faf. Boschoff, Lambie, Steyn
Jean, Allende, Jan, Jordaan Sadie, SitholiHabana, JP, Jordaan, JJ, Willie, Mvovo.
I probably missed a few as well. 
Behind a domianat back they would be lethal. The big trick is to pick a loose trio for a running game. Not too flimsy either.
How about Fourie, Vermuelen and Britz. Add in Beast, Strauss, Malherbe, Etzebeth, Du Toit/ Lood/Flip.
Very mobile powerful pack. Great set peice and lineout. Pace in the loose trio. Then go for a more balanced game. They would simply be unbeatable. 

 Mike we need modern coaches not dinosaurs. Our two weakest provinces - the Lions and Cheetahs are playing some very good attacking rugby. Imagine what the top provinces could achieve. The balance needs adjusting. 
Translate that thought to the Boks and one realisies we are palying way below potential. However Meyer is straigtening the ship and we await the next phase of development.
The kiwis are terrified of the sleeping giant that is SA rugby and like Mexted they hope the slumber lasts. Eagerly they encourage the selection of never has beens like wee matfiled etc.Beeno as always seeing through the kbbs

 I thought he played his best game of the season, he actually played like a centre that created tries for other players. Not sure if their are question marks over his defence, as the Cheetas seem particularly exposed out wide. 
I doubt Meyer would choose him though- because his Bulls got rid of Slim Sadie

Beeno
We really have a problem with the coaches.  I like Jake White - but his strong suit is not backline coaching - he had to bring in Eddy Jones in 2007.   The result is the harks backline are critically poor in attacking rugby.   You may have seen that the Sharks backline thus far this year scored only 8 tries 0 four of which were scored by Jordaan (2), Lambiue and Reinach.   In other words in five matches the rest of their  backline scored only four tries - Mostly as a result of individual brilliance of some players.    The backline as a whole is malfunctioning and the problem to a large extent is Francois Steyn.   Too much unthinking rugby and poor reading of the game.   Perhaps you missed what Mallett and Naas Botha said of him yesterday.    Ir is apprent they think he is useless as a flyhalf - end of story.
I think  Smal will ultimately get the Stormers back on track - perhaps not this year, but definitely next year.  The damage caused over the last two years will take time to repair.
There is no hope that the Bulls backline will ever come right.  Mozart think that theya re playing the right brand of rugby and apparemtly the view is one of Ludeke as well. Can you imagine a backline with Matfield as attack coach = I know he was moonlighting in the backline more than he did his work in tight 5 situations - but that certainly does not make him a proper attack coach.  Bad news that one. 
I think you are mistaken about Goosen - he is a key why the Cheetahs attacking rigby is so good.  I would consider him ahead of everyone else if a really functioning backline is needed.
To be quite honest Fourie had a very poor season this year compared to what he achi eved last year.   Coetzee to my mind is at present the better 6 of the two.
    

 ou maaaikie the Stormers are playing a lightweight powder puff pack. Deon has been outstanding in the circumstances.Mallet and Botha were in favour of Steyn staying at flyhalf!!! What are you talking about.
Jordaan has been a big loss to the Sharks, his pace and creativity are missed big time. 
JP is not a wing as he lacks the pace. I see him as a 13 and put Jordaan perhaps on the wing? 
Jake will have to sort this all out. Mvovo at FB has worked. SP Marais at inside centre? 
Flyhalf problems looming for the Sharks and Sweil needs time off the bench wherever possible to grow him as a player.
 

Beeno 
During half time yesterday both Mallett and Naas was very critical of Steyn's passing game.   They even showed by graphics how he destroyed potential moves when the Sharks had an overlap by making skip passes to the wing - thus eliminatinmg the overlap advantage.   They claimed at happened three times.   That shows he does not read the game properly and is utterly predictable.   
On the air they did not pull punches.  If they are asked for a diplomatic reply - they might say Steyn is an option at flyhalf - but from what they said during match discussions on the Lions game and again yesterday they were impressed with his long distance penalty kicks - nothing else.
I wouuld hate to see such a slow player playing at flyhalf.  Remember that rolling ball kicked over the goal line in the Lions 22.  He had a more than 2 meter start on Skosan - the latter beat him over 20 meters by nearly two meters.   I know Skosan is a fast runner - but over 20 meters to overhaul Steyn and pass him with ease is really a no show.
Look Jordaan played at inside center a number of times for the Sharks and was very good.  He is an option there - as well.

 Mike, I think my final verdict on JJ is that he's not a 13. He should have stayed at wing. He can't tackle low, in fact he can't get low to begin with as evidence by the disallowed try in last years June tests, where he didn't dive at the try line but slowly fell and got pushed in to touch.
White needs are decent backline coach. 
Thought more questions would be asked about Sadie's defence, to be honest.

 Chezza
I did not think that Sadie has had a major problem in defense - and did not take note of problems in the relevant regard.   However, after your comment and in the ab sence of other resources I checked his stats about tackles and found that he made 48 tackles thus far in Super 15 and missed 10.   That represents a missed tackle ratio of 17,2% - which is slightly higher than an acceptable ratio of 10 to 12%.
Goqweverm it is considerably below Francais Steyn missed tackle ratio of 24%this year and also much lower than the 23% missed by De Jongh last year.
My view is that every player can improve on defense - but I do not think that Sadie has any really serious defensive problems like for instance JJ (seriously defective technique), Francois Steyn (speed deficiency) and De Jongh have,        

 Saffex
You really have a very one-eyed perception of Sadie.
He has ample pace as is evident by the fact that he more than any other SA backline player has gained meters for his side.  In the games thus far this year he has carried the ball 50 times - making a meter gain of 256 meters.   He has made 9 clean line breaks - more than any other center again - so I think he was really on average better than any other 13 this year.
Sadie did very well for himself by getting away from the Bulls.   I really think the Bulls are destroying the careers of both Serfontein and Engelbrecht - they should leave there and go to the Cheetahs or even the Lions - and you will see two entirely different players from what you see at present.
And by the way which Olivier are you referring to?  If Meisiekind - he was in the Bulls style a routine crashballer - something which Sadie is definitely not.      

 Saffex
I am not telling you anything - but stating facts.  Sadie is not as quick as JJ - but he definitely had been a better performer than JJ  was all season long.  I think he is a better reader of the game than the other less successful centers.    Matter of fact he made more clean line breaks than all the other SA centers combined. 
Do you share my opinion that Serfontein and Engelbrecht in the interest of their careers should leave the Bulls?    

Mozart
And De Jongh has.  The latest Mozart craziness is size, size and size.  Basteraud is suddenly his model center because of size.   How many times has opposition players got the better of Bausteraud?   Slow as a carthorse, but then size is suddenly everything.
Francois Steyn is his ideal flyhalf - partly because of his "presence" - problem is his poor defense and lack of anything remotely attached to attacking rugby makes that "presence" a joke.
Size is only important if it is accompanied by bell sense and skills - if not it is a handicap.    
   
But then Mozart is known for his instability in support of players.  He supports De Jongh - smaller and lighter than Sadie -  but Sadie is a nice provincial player so what is De Jongh? 
      

It will help if they left, but it wont make international centres of them.....the raw material is lacking.  

 Is the raw material you are thinking of here "size without speed"?  Looks like that if I have to go with your new heroes - Bausteraud and Francois Steyn.  Both would perhaps be doing better at loosie - but NO they are too slow for that too and they miss too many tackles to play them there.   

 Mike, based on Jannie Du Plessis the missing tackles part would be fine.

 Shezza
Add a yellow card or two - thinking of dear Jannie - and you have the right mix for useless player of the match.

JJ was dropped after NZ last year....and Serfontein was all but useless on the wing at Ellis Park. This year they are the worst centre pair in the SA S15 scene ......fogettabout them.

Mozart
I agree with you about Esterhuysen and JJ - but advise the same in your case about the one-dimensional Francois Steyn and Victor Matfield at flyhalf and lock respectively. Matter of fact it would be wise to forget about Steyn at center too.   

So by that logic Moz, if a hooker played lock and had a poor game you would judge him as a bad player. When he's been given a chance at center for SA then that's the best time to judge him.

 Shezza
You will find that all Mozart player assessments are based on one incident during a game or at a stretch one game in a whole series.  The problem is that in the case of a particular player he likes the incident could be followed by a drove of poor plays - but the latter does not count.
Beware a player he does not like - he would find ways to denigrate players even if they are top performers.   He even invent words for the purpose - like a player being a "process tackler".   Players  he does not like who makes a large number of tackles are "process tacklers"   Players he likes - who make far fewer or even less effective  tackles are never "process tacklers".   All BS in fact  hence my nickname for him.
Anyone who takes his assessments of players as a serious evaluation of a players performances must have his head read.  His is no in-depth assessment of performance - it is at best a joke.   I find it very funny and when he gets cornered - he runs to personal attacks or try to side-track the discussions - that is even funnier.  
Lets accept those things as facts and enjoy dis flowery language - especially when he is cornered.