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Joke White: Time for the snake to slither off

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KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
14 Apr 2024, 08:20
#1
14 Apr 2024, 08:20#1

What a disaster last night. How on earth did he think he could win with club players that are the worst of SA professionals. These are players that were picked from Currie cup teams. They are by no means the best Given so many professional players, 600+ are playing abroad. These were the ones that couldn’t get an overseas contract that stayed behind. 


What SA coaches don’t realise how professional the Europe teams have become. They might not have a conveyer belt of talent, but they look after their players. We saw no name brands become star players for their clubs because they get a chance to play, often, and the coaches work on then. 


Joke was so arrogant to think that he could pull this off. I would be okay if it was a URC tour of 3 weeks. Then I would say go for it. 


Yet, Joke thinks he could just let the biggest prize in club rugby slip away and only focus on URC. 


It may be that they couldn’t qualify for a home semi because of the stipulation give SA is not a full member and will only be one next year and therefore try to get the highest ranking, but it still doesn’t mean you should do this to the fans. 


What an opportunity to make a statement. For years we have been debating that the Southernmost hemisphere teams would walk over the European teams. 


Like I said, the conditioning of the players as well as the professionalism has gone up several notches. We saw an SA A team, brimming with talent get swept aside by a Bristol B team. Rugby is a team sport and players need time together over several seasons. Northampton has shown how lethal they have become. 


Jake has all the luxury and money, but yet he thinks he can just mess around. 


I still believe we play too much club rugby. I would rather see more test rugby that means something. A international provincial game with quality and none of this garbage. 


I do think we need to sort out the URC and European championship. I would rather have a league. No finals, and then a knock out comp. 


Jake can just fuck off now 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 Apr 2024, 08:57
#2
14 Apr 2024, 08:57#2

Next Friday's match vs Munster is way more important. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Apr 2024, 14:14
#3
14 Apr 2024, 14:14#3

As the commentator said when an image of Jake in the box was shown during the game …’one of the great men of world rugby’. He certainly is having won a Trinations and a World Cup, and having coached all over the world.

Jake is all about the rugby, he is doing what he wants to do…coach a rugby team. If he gave his team a rest, he never lingered back home himself .

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Apr 2024, 14:37
#4
14 Apr 2024, 14:37#4

White is also a coach whom noboy wants to renew a contract with,   Why should that be?    When he was not effective - like happened in he case of the Sharks - they did  not like to retain him for obvious reasons and told him to resign or he will be fired.    A  very limited thinker on strategy - he  had a very limited game plan - since he had a zero knowledge about coaching  backline players.   

Also he had a weird selection of playes to join the franchise or club where he coach and when given an unlimited budget by the Bulls main owners -  he buggered it up totally by contracting duds.   His time is getting short at the Bulls and I do think he will have to have the luck of a poxdoctor for his contract to  be nenewed.   

Just for the record  Erasmius was in charge when the Springboks 3 WC  winners  and a RC trophy - so he is by a proverbial mile better than Jake.           

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Apr 2024, 14:37
#5
14 Apr 2024, 14:37#5

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ST
Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
14 Apr 2024, 15:56
#6
14 Apr 2024, 15:56#6

LOL Toulouse just whacked a full strength Exeter by 64-26 an even bigger margin than the Bull's B Team got thumped yesterday but I guess Exter won't be investigated for fielding a weak team.

 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 Apr 2024, 10:19
#7
15 Apr 2024, 10:19#7
Jake is a useless prick that as usual has his priorities completely wrong How the fuck can any coach with any merit prioritise the URC over the Champions Cup - he is a fucking idiot Thanks to the idiots call the powers that be are launching an investigation into the disrespect the Bulls are showing to the competition Biggest issue I have with the snake is the fact that the stupid prick is lying. Telling us he wants to give his B side an opportunity to get some exposure to big competitions - you don’t do that in a QF Jake you fucking dunce . Then he lies about literally his whole A side being injured - how convenient that it happens to be those players Sack Jake White I say he is a discredited to SA rugby - once a snake always a snake Bring in a coach who respects the opportunities SA provincial rugby has been given
ST
Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
15 Apr 2024, 10:36
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15 Apr 2024, 10:36#8
I think its a simple case of prioritizing the competition he thinks the Bulls can do better in.
Firstly with the travel arrangements there was no guarantee the Bull's first team would have beaten the Saints. Then having to fly back home to face a rested Munster team who will probably be bringing the strongest team they can to SA now that they are out of the Champions Cup. They are in a tight race with Munster and Glasgow and slipping up would potentially mean missing out on a home semi final.
A run to the final is a distinct possibility in the URC and they would only likely need to achieve one upset to win it as opposed to 3 in the Champions Cup.
I mean beating Northamption, then Leinster and almost certainly Toulouse away was always going be beyond the Bulls, c hrist did you see what Toulouse did to Exeter...holy shit.



SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 Apr 2024, 11:45
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15 Apr 2024, 11:45#9
No there is no merit in the URC when compared to the Champions Cup The Champions Cup should be the priority end of Given the squad the Bulls have they can beat any club/provincial side on the planet. Believing you are anything less is piss poor form and clearly the mentality the wonderful Jake White has surprise, surprise He spends his time bitching and moaning about travel, about wanting all abroad based SA players to be playing at home etc etc etc Sack the petulant twat I say
ST
Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
15 Apr 2024, 17:50
#10
15 Apr 2024, 17:50#10

G iven the squad the Bulls have they can beat any club/provincial side on the planet. Believing you are anything less is piss poor form and clearly the mentality the wonderful Jake White has surprise, surprise.

Sure believing is one thing, in any one off game a team may play beyond itself or the other team may have an off day but 9/10 Toulouse or Leinster are going beat the Bulls because they are simply the better team.

LOL Leinster are just trolling at the moment, RG Snyman  and now Jordie Barrett signed for next season. As if they they weren't good enough at the moment.


SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 Apr 2024, 19:06
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15 Apr 2024, 19:06#11
The Bulls have a really good squad - without doubt players good enough to compete with the best
KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
16 Apr 2024, 08:21
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16 Apr 2024, 08:21#12

I don't see how the team that he put out was going to gain any experience. Especially when you have some has beens in the team that are not collecting their pensions, add that to you 600th SA wingers in De Klerk and Stravino Jacobs. Probably only 2 players I would rate and that is Cameron Hannekom, Zak Burger. Jan Hendrik Wessels was on the bench. Gumede still need to find his feet. 

This team lacked cohesion and structure. 'The attack looked blunt. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Apr 2024, 15:47
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16 Apr 2024, 15:47#13
You are wrong about Stravino Jacobs and Sebastian de Klerk Your biggest miss in terms of quality players is 19 year old lock JF v Heerden Swanepoel the other lock also had a respectable game But this side was effectively the B side and Jake is a complete wanker for doing what he has done The self serving twat had soured the whole concept of SA sides playing in the NH competitions. The Bulls should really sack him, he has completely discredited the union
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