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Jonathan Kaplan on TV SA

Started by hakwa9 REPLIES339 VIEWS· 07 Oct 2014, 03:54
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
07 Oct 2014, 03:54
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07 Oct 2014, 03:54#1

Retired South African referee Jonathan Kaplan says the decision to award a last-gasp penalty against the All Blacks in their loss to the Springboks sets a dangerous precedent.
Kaplan, was concerned about how the incident came to the attention of referee Wayne Barnes. Writing for the website ratetheref.co.za, Kaplan noted Barnes and his assistant referees all missed the tackle, which was then brought to their attention by broadcasters who controlled what was shown by replay on the big screen at Ellis Park.

“After finding the clip, and th en replaying it over and over, eventually the match officials decided it was worthy of review” Kaplan said. “I doubt [very much] whether that clip would have been brought up on the screen by producers in Aus or NZ and replayed over and over.

“Is it right that someone outside of the domain of the match officials can affect the outcome of a major Test match? And how neutral is he?”

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sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
07 Oct 2014, 04:36
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07 Oct 2014, 04:36#2
Something I commented on another thread is that South Africa seem to have a top quality camera crew. 
I am not sure if we have more camera's than other stadiums, because replays generally seem to be on the big screen and TV faster when watching games in SA. This is when tries are scored, or any other pieces of play. 
Assuming this is true, it would give SA an unfair advantage. 
Although Bismaark might have wished that the replays were on the screen in New Zealand much faster when he tackled Carter. If the tackle was played over and over, the ref could have seen it was not an illegal tackle. Using the same logic as applied on other posts, maybe the camera man did see that the tackle was fine- and then decided to not show the replay.......(Although I wonder if the camera men even know much about rugby)
I think the technology is good to help get the right decision. However it will be unfair if certain countries have better camera work. 
One thing is that if the crowd can influence the decisions with the big screen, then surely they can only influence the correct decisions? If the referee watches something over and over on the big screen- it cant make a legal tackle, and illegal one....
The crowd influenced the decision on Bismaark last year- but they influenced the wrong decision. 
More technology can only be a good thing to get the decision right more of the time. South Africa got penalised twice for legit tackles against Australia, and last year the Bismaark incident was legit. So having poor camera work works just the same as  good camera work where the audience can influence the referee. 
At the end of the day, if Liam Messam had not made an illegal tackle, it would not matter how many times the replay happened.
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
07 Oct 2014, 08:37
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07 Oct 2014, 08:37#3
 “Is it right that someone outside of the domain of the match officials can affect the outcome of a major Test match?" asks Jonathan Kaplan


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Oct 2014, 09:23
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07 Oct 2014, 09:23#4
 Well done to the TV guys for pointing out thge disgracefull tackle by Messum which could easily have been ared.
I would strongly recommend ALL acts of thuggery and cheating be shown on the big screen given the dismal state of officiating by down under refs with their get the Jarpy campaign -  it could help. The wider the conspiracy the more likely it is to fail and come to light as some honest oke Justin Marshall type stands up against the corruption.
One has to rejoice when justice is done and Messum got off extremely lightly. As per usual those wanting the injustices favouring the wee abs to continue complain bitterly that justice was done. bwahahahhaha suck it up. Nz g ot away with enough as it was.
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
07 Oct 2014, 12:03
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07 Oct 2014, 12:03#5
Beanhead, the head butt of Vemulean on Read was completely ignored by YOUR same TV Network. Justice? I am surprised you can even spell the word
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
07 Oct 2014, 15:53
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07 Oct 2014, 15:53#6
 That hit on Burger was intended to injure him without doubt.
Barnes and/or the touch judge should have caught it and it should have been a red card.
Time to stamp out thugs on the field and play sport.
Irrespective of who or what team they are on.
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
08 Oct 2014, 00:40
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08 Oct 2014, 00:40#7
 
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
08 Oct 2014, 01:58
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08 Oct 2014, 01:58#8
 true that Cloudy.
I for one would have liked to see Vermeulens head butts replayed over and over again and magnified and in extra slow motion.
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
08 Oct 2014, 16:30
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08 Oct 2014, 16:30#9
 I thought Kaplan had retired from reffing.
Wrong I see.
Still adding fuel to the fire is he?
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
09 Oct 2014, 00:56
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09 Oct 2014, 00:56#10
 Arthur I think Kaplan is asking the right question " Is it right that someone outside of the domain of the match officials can affect the outcome of a major Test match?" Kaplan also asked," and how neutral is he?"

If the answer is a resounding YES then let us ALL legalise it on paper for ALL our countries. I would definitely put my hands up for the job of live editing of TV Coverage of any Tests between the All Blacks and the Springboks without any prompting from the Ref/Touch Judges or Video Refs.
Infact I would cut in to halt the game at Vermeulens head butt to ensure he gets a Red Card
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