MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Feb 2014, 00:08#3
Mike you are totally clueless. Lambie never does anything to release his inside centre. I Frans simply passes the ball the movement will just crab across the field. Somebody has to penetrate. you listen to forwards commentating on back play.
As for your chosen man Watermeyer, he made 30 m in 6 runs, all of which came on the try running through open field...and he missed 3 of his 8 tackles. Man you sure know how to pick 'em.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Feb 2014, 00:53#5
In running play, the only thing Lambie does is pass. That puts enormous burdens on the inside centre...if there is a fair criticism of Morne, it's exactly that. Both fly halves don't do enough with the ball to givetime and space to the players outside them.
The fact that Jean regularly cracks the defence says volumes about his play. Jean is the only SA centre that can regularly break through tight defences all on his own. Bok supporters haven't figured this out, perhaps they will when he is gone. Today in the same dilemma Fransie was pretty decent.
23 Feb 2014, 02:29#9
Savea let Jordaan run around him FYI - it's those little mercies we give to you guys every now and then.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Feb 2014, 05:27#10
Little mercies like a Canes scrum with only a reverse gear?
23 Feb 2014, 10:26#13
Mozie, it's an automatic car with Hammet at the wheel so what do you expect? It's very easy to put it into reverse
STSun-Tzu
Club Pro713 posts
23 Feb 2014, 13:02#14
Jean hasn't exactly been a model 12 over the years, but the fact does remain that at the Stormers he has never had a quality 10 inside him and when with Lambie has had nothing. LiarMike was dis-proven regarding Frans aready. It didn't like what the stats said, that he passed, ran, made the hard yards and beat defenders in every game as well as offered the offload - something that only he offers of all our would be inside centres. I was c urious to see how he would read last weeks game, because Frans created space for that excellent try off a lineout. It essentially reflects everything that LiarMike knows about the game, numbers. He cannot read an actual game so he reverts to numbers to form some kind of discernment. He is essentially always wrong. My suggestion is to save yourself the trouble of responding to him, it just gives him a platform to lie.
MDMonkey D Luffy
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MDMonkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
23 Feb 2014, 14:33#16
@mikey,
i see frans steyns role as something similar to nonu, a player who is used to get the ball on the frontfoot and over the advantage line, so that the rest of the sharks can continue building the phases.
it would be a bonus if steyn penetrated the line a lot more, but that would apply to everyone who carries the ball.
but for now, being strong in the contact with ball in hand and ensuring the sharks get over the advantage line is the big guys No1 goal.
with jordaan as his centers partner, sharks are very fortunate to have two different set of skills, as it gives them a wider range of options in many areas.
steyn is looking very fit in 2014, by my visual guesstimation, it looks like hes dropped 5-10 kgs since last year, and im sure in time he will produce performances which will have u singing his praises, :o)
JWJust_win
Captain18,570 posts
JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Feb 2014, 14:45#17
I am sure CleverMike is anxious to demonstrate he is not bias & can (when the stats clearly tell the story) change his view on a player.
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 Feb 2014, 23:15#19
Yep that was a nice beating of Savea, but thankfully I have no prejudice against Jordaan and wont be labeling that beating of Savea as an 'accidental step'.....it was Jordaan's only good contribution of the game.......for the rest he was pretty anonymous in a dominating Sharks side.
Moz, I notice you have failed to mention Serfontein's beating of the defender on the outside......once again proving he is not only about the inside step. In atrocious conditions, Serfontein was SA's best 12 on the day.
Cant say any SA centres stood out on the day.......it was pretty flat all round
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
24 Feb 2014, 01:02#21
Frans was damn good again, is all I have to say.......I am not saying Jordaan could have done anymore......I am just pointing out to these clowns that seem to be hell bent on dissing JJ at every turn........that virtually every other centre on the day did as little as the other.......I only saw the SA games, that obviously included Conrad Smith for the Canes.........no centre stood out as they all good little action
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
24 Feb 2014, 01:46#23
I doubt Fouche will start for the Bulls again at 10......being subbed at halftime should say it all.
Not sure what has happened to Fouche since returning from injury......he looks a different player. He missed most of last year through injury and looked pretty useful before that injury........cant say the same now......he has been the worst SA S15 player by some distance thus far.
As for Frans, I see your usually utter bullshit is starting early.......your rugby knowledge is very poor Mike and I mean that sincerely.
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
24 Feb 2014, 02:00#25
Sounds about as accurate as your call on Venter comprehensively outplaying Serfontein.......what a bloody joke.
I checked the stats for a laugh............Serfontein 14m gained, Venter 10m
Serfontein 3 defenders beaten, Venter 1 defender beaten
Serfontein 2 tackles missed, Venter 2 tackles missed
Just as I thought......you are speaking shit.......you just lie the whole time to try make a point but we just see through you with ease.
For the rest of the S15 season we are going to listen to you slagging off Frans - how pathetic and predictable