SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Jun 2020, 19:27#5
Strauss was great for the Lions, good player and very good leader. Definitely Bok material in his prime, hence playing test rugby for Scotland
He is past it now

sharkbok
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sharkbokCaptain23,234 posts
25 Jun 2020, 23:48#7
Josh should either be hanging up his boots, or perhaps the Kings would have him.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
26 Jun 2020, 00:22#8
Bullshit at his best he was Bok material by the time he qualified for Scotland his best days were over
He was the best in his position in the country at times when playing for the Lions and was by far our best leader at the time
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
26 Jun 2020, 00:57#10
Vermeulen was better most of the time but not all the time. Strauss was better at times
JJ was by far our best 13 at the time and his beating of Smith confirmed that, it was perfect 13 play. He had speed and good feet. At least I had the balls to concede I was wrong about JJ as it became evident he lacked the hard edge. That was not apparent in his test breakthrough year. You on the other hand never concede and it’s makes you that much poorer as a rugby observer
One thing I’m not clueless about is rugby players. Your takes on well most our players is clueless and I mean that sincerely
For if you were right about them all we would not be the best side in the game right now. Your takes on Kriel, Serfontein, de Allende, Reinach, Kitshoff, Malherbe, Lood, PSDT, Marcel Coetzee, Kolisi etc are laughable. But the list is endless
SA has always had the best players nothing has changed. Politics got in the way for a while but Rassie is restoring the order.
I rate and back our players, we have more depth than ever and it’s showing
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Jun 2020, 22:26#17
Um.....yes JJ beat Savea butI’m on about him beating Smith and outplaying him one on one - his opposite number
Your takes on those players is utter rubbish as per usual in particular our centres having no creativity. Our centres are the best in the business
Name another country that has de Allende, Serfontein, Kriel, Am, JVR and Esterhuizen to call on
Rubbish re Strauss vs Vermeulen. Hell Dan du Preez outplayed Vermeulen for most of the last Super rugby season they competed in.
Vermeulen is bloody good but there are others that are or have been just as good
As for where we stand, our ranking says it all along with the WC win. The WC has taken the Boks to the next level - if we played the AB’s now we would beat them 3 out of 5 times

sharkbok
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sharkbokCaptain23,234 posts
28 Jun 2020, 00:35#18
JJ should have been on the wing. At least until he lost his pace.
28 Jun 2020, 03:27#20
Vermeulen has been the best 8 we've had since the game turned pro, him being "outplayed" in Super rugby doesn't prove anything when he puts in the performances he does for the Boks. And again, it isn't a boxing match where each position is fighting against their opposing number...
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Jun 2020, 19:24#21
Aug shut the fuck up your rugby ignorance is a fucking bore
We consistently have the best centre pairs and that’s a fact
From Jean and Fourie
to the current pair of de Allende and Am or Kriel