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Juan de Jongh caps a great WP win

Started by Mozart13 REPLIES233 VIEWS· 16 Aug 2014, 22:37
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Aug 2014, 22:37
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16 Aug 2014, 22:37#1

What a magnificent break by Kolbe....what a great finish by de Jongh. More great running by Senatla. It seems Kolbe and Senatla will be competing to see who can be most spectacular. JJ nowhere....only spotted in the bin.

 

What a contrast to those two dull as dishwater tests.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Aug 2014, 01:11
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17 Aug 2014, 01:11#2
 Wonderful Mozart.  What did De Jongh do to gt lauded - near to bugger-all.   Did you watch the game at all or are your comments based on what you read somewhere?   De Jongh should be replaced - he produced nothing of substance all game long.     
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Aug 2014, 01:29
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17 Aug 2014, 01:29#3
 Yes I did you old chancer. De Jongh had a fine game...he was huge in the goal line defence and involved throughout.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Aug 2014, 03:52
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17 Aug 2014, 03:52#4
 Another braqod lie - he never made a single tackle when the forwards were attacking the tryline.  He was huge standing around 15 meters away.   
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Aug 2014, 05:23
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17 Aug 2014, 05:23#5
Braqod check under the poles when the Bools were almost over...you'll find de Jongh did th hard work. An excellent game by a good player you have attacked month in, month out. Only because I think he is a sound centre...shame on you OOm
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Aug 2014, 06:31
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17 Aug 2014, 06:31#6
 O - he did make a tackle - that is weird and an achievement - he normally misses 39% of all tackle attempts.   
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Aug 2014, 06:55
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17 Aug 2014, 06:55#7
Actually his test average is 92  per cent. Your avatar after one test is 0 per cent. Wehe!  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Aug 2014, 11:03
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17 Aug 2014, 11:03#8
 His test averages were not reflected in Super 15 this year - it was 73% - just slightly better than the 72% of Francois Steyn.    Both let in  numerous opposition tries as well.  Look - I know you like both as test centers - both were abject failures at center this year in Super 15 year and if you want to destroy the backline potential of the Springboks - bring those two into the fray.   Fact is that Steyn destroyed the Sharks backline single-handedly this year and they are only now recovering in his absence.           
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Aug 2014, 13:21
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17 Aug 2014, 13:21#9
 De Jongh did nothing all game I take it you missed jj running straight through De Jongh,  would you like me to point out the exact moment it happened?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Aug 2014, 13:47
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17 Aug 2014, 13:47#10
 Saffex
Mozart is into his standard campaign.   De Jongh must be the best 13 in SA and the ideal lock combination is Bakkies Botha and Vicctor Matfield.   Vakkies did squat yesterday  - but Mozart is highly satisfied with his performances.  
He still wants Morne at all cost at 10 - and when I pointed out that De Allende saved a certain try for Argetina after the Morne botch up near his tryline - he went quiet 
S o I think a person should not take too much note of what that idiot says.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Aug 2014, 14:16
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17 Aug 2014, 14:16#11
 De Jongh got beaten by jj with ease and did nothing all game except finish off the brilliant kolbe break. He is too small for centre and that fact can never be overlooked. 
Players like bakkies, matfield, steenkamp, morne and pienaar are liabilities in the Bok side. Pienaar for instance is poor at the base of a ruck he does not impose himself and gets dominated. We need an aggressive 9 who will fight to get his hands on the ball 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Aug 2014, 15:21
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17 Aug 2014, 15:21#12
 Saffex
I think Pienaar's kicking game yesterday was pathetic - real donkey kick pattern.   The Pumas recipients were never under pressure and his kicks just represented  possession handovers.   That cost the Springboks territory more often than not.
Morne's kicking game was none better and he still does not know when to kick or when to pass.   Habe a look at minute 56-57 - where there was a huge overlap and Morne instead of passing the ball - made one of the worst kicks of the game.  And then there was that charge down kick that nearly lost the game for the Springboks.  Only saved by a desperate effort by De Allende to stop the almost certain try to be scored by the Pumas.   
How any sensible rugby enthusiasts can want those two in the team is a real joke.   But then we know ou dear member Mozart is anything but sensible and so biased - he refused to look beyiond his nose at what players actually produce.   We were very, very lucky yesterday.   If Matfield was playing together with Bakkies - we would have lost the game.  We were in fact lucky that the non-productive Bakkies only played for 40 minutes.   The Tight  5 did not do well - but a further weakening of the Tight  5 by including Matfield would have been fatal.   
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Aug 2014, 15:30
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17 Aug 2014, 15:30#13

Dave after watching for a good while I was wondering if JJ was actually playing....then I saw him running up open space on the left....smacked down....and he lost the ball. Instantly I knew it was JJ. How many games is that without a try? The man is in the Gobi desert for try scorers.

 

 

You see the difference with de Jongh is he got himself in exactly the right place to take Kolbe's pass, didn't drop the ball, and rode the tackle to score. JJ would have fallen over his own feet, dropped the ball or run into an opponent. How did you like his idiotic card?

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Aug 2014, 15:42
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17 Aug 2014, 15:42#14
 De Jongh is playing in a winning side. JJ is playing for a side getting it's arse kicked. JJ got little ball but managed to beat defenders twice something De Jongh never did. One on One JJ beat De Jongh. 
The yellow was petty. 
But saying that JJ has coped a pathetic hand under Meyer which sums him up for the poor coach he is.  A good coach would have built on JJ s performance with ball in hand against NZ. Instead he has quashed the players spark
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