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Juan de Jongh - what has gone wrong in his case?

Started by clevermike6 REPLIES386 VIEWS· 24 Aug 2013, 21:27
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2013, 21:27
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24 Aug 2013, 21:27#1
He did play for the WP today and even managed to score a try following up on a ball kicked into space by Elstadt of all people. At least that was a positive. I was watching him playing today and I must say the display he put up was in fact dismal. From what I saw in the whole match his defenxe was a horror story. As far as i could see during the whole game he attempted to make six tackles. He completely missed three of those - made 2 - and the final one was dangerous tackle attempt for which he was penalised. The last attempted tackle comprises a shoulder charge - no arms used - and the ball carrier swung out of it and continued with his move. De Jongh's second attempt resulted in a tackle- but the Griquas lost the ball in the resulting maul and after a kick downfield Kolbe within a minute scored a try - all for nothing and the players were called back and a penalty awatded against WP. What was further bad was two blatant knock-ons by him so on balance he was not worth having in the team. That despite the try - since any backline player following up the kick would have scored it in any event. This guy must have been borne under a lucky star - he remains in Meyer's squad - but if ever there was an iffy player - he is it.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Aug 2013, 22:09
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24 Aug 2013, 22:09#2

Mike the team picked by ou Alistair will not do the job. I will not be surprised if Lions win next week against WP. Allistair loves his small players. We were very lucky to win against Griguas.

I would like to see De Jongh tried on the wing.

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Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
25 Aug 2013, 20:22
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25 Aug 2013, 20:22#3

TRANSFORMATION, clevermike.

 

He is just another quota player.

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carpetmuncherPro1,667 posts
26 Aug 2013, 00:51
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26 Aug 2013, 00:51#4

the sad truth is for a player like juan is that he is coached but a coach like coetzee and fleck. if he had any other coach like either lets say naka/hawies fourie or even carlos spencer i am quite sure he would have been in another league. when he rose from the club ranks he was lethal on attack but with most talent the coetzee butchers culls on a yearly basis his attacking instincts has been circumsized and he is now just a creatined tackled bag that has the odd moment here and there. he do feel for him as when he was at maties i felt he had the potential to be a great but sadly the coetzee butcher shop robbed him of his potential.

 

he is no just a shell of his former self. he had always a bit of a defence issue due to his size but he at least offered something on attack but now his attacking ablitys are gone and his defence has sharpened a bit he is no trojan wall i am sad to say. i pressume he wont be sending the old silver fox namly robbie fleck and xmas cards anytime soon as i am sure old fleck coached this player into a brown paper bag

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Aug 2013, 01:19
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26 Aug 2013, 01:19#5

 Hahahaha....funny stuff guys.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Aug 2013, 02:27
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26 Aug 2013, 02:27#6
Mozart Sorry - not funny stuff. I described exactly what happened in the match he played in - from the try he scored - as well as the tackle situation. The missed tackles - the shoulder charge - the resultant penalty - the disallowed Kolbe try - all of the issues are factual. If it was so in the CC match concerned - why is it funny? I think - like in the case of Jantjies - that deterioration in performances of a player is tragic - really not funny.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Aug 2013, 02:57
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26 Aug 2013, 02:57#7

 Probably just demotivated playing those journeymen.

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