Julian Savea

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12204675

Julian Savea's Toulon boss is bitterly unhappy with him and wants him to "go home" . What went wrong with this fella? He was the new Jonah Lomu a little while back, and he just went off the boil. Even before he went to France, his performances just seemed to be getting weaker and weaker. When he was on form four or five years ago, I remember being petrified whenever he got hold of the ball. I really don't understand what changed? Doe anyone have any insights?   

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the42.ie/all-black-julian-savea-assault-charge-878520-Apr2013/%3famp=1

Sounds like juicing to me.

No, no and no. It was the pressure of being an AB that caused him to slap his wife around.

He has had a tendency for violent outbursts ... and beating up a woman doesn't seem to bother him much either.

Incredible player in his day ... he should have done more with the talent he had.

He suffers from anger issues and depression. A tough combination to live with.  

It seems he has actually been released from his contract. So he gets all the money, but can also go play for another club

Controversial Toulon owner Mourad Boudjellal has paid mocking tribute to the negotiating skills of former All Black Ali Williams, after his arrest on drug charges last week.

Williams and former Wallaby James O'Connor were both detained by Paris police over the purchase of cocaine - Williams was charged with buying the substance and O'Connor for possession.

Although Williams, 36, is currently contracted to the Paris-based Racing 92 club, Boudjellal has already experienced his haggling powers during a previous two-year stint with Toulon.

"On one side, we have a 36-year-old whose career is over and on the other, a 26-year-old whose career, I hope for him, is not over," Boudjellal told Le Figaro newspaper.

...there's another subplot that is being missed i think with SAvea's wife being one of Toulon's biggest critics on Twitter...Toulon's owner is probably sick of her shit as well and his comments are also aimed at her i'd say after she keeps roasting the club on social media...something wrong with the culture at Toulon by the looks.....

... but not everyone's cup of tea French rugby although i see Dan Carter is heading back there...Savea will get snapped up in a heartbeat by another club that knows how to manage him and utilise his talents - TOUlon's owner is only shitting in his own nest as other Kiwis will choose other clubs if he is going to be a dick..

Fuck the french amyway, fucken frogs treating our backyard the Pacific as a dump for their nuclear waste and then their terrorist attack on NZ... after all the sacifices our soldiers made in both wars to liberate them...they can all get fucked

Brycy

Savea was not really a house on fire for Toulon - in 16 games played he scored TWO tries.   For heavens sake club players playing against Toulon scored more tries.   In the European Champions Cup a player like Van der Merwe sored 8 tries in 5 matches played.   

Unfortunately Toulon signed two top players in Nonu amd Savea and both failed badly.    Nonu did a bit better - and was released from his contract, but Savea was so disappointing they just will pay his salary for the remainder of his contract.

There has been Carter - who was successful as a list of other AB players playing NH Club rugby who were poor investments.   Take for instance Cruden, Luatua, Sopoaga and Piatau.   None really showed the expected top class form.   

I am afraid that Savea will not get a contract in Europe - he has spoilt his copy book.- he may be forced to play touch rugby in Japan.         

first thing first,..... the Toulon president is an utter assh0le,.... as Sebastian Chabal and others said, this selfloved smug is the main problem for Toulon

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/110671287/the-problem-at-toulon-is-the-president-declares-french-rugby-beast-sebastien-chabal

and could be extended to be one of the main problems of the French rugby, he and his tycoon friends

secondly, if he has someone to blame, should be his recruiting team,.... Savea was in bad shape for around 2 years before his signing with Toulon,.... these very big units playing at wing have to train a lot to keep their speed once they pass the 26-27 years' barrier,... and Savea wasn't up for it and was unable to keep his starting spot at the canes,... Nemani Nadolo has announce also that he's not going to play more international tests in this RWC year (so he won't be in japan) with 30 years (I think)

but as many other churlish brats become tycoons he thinks he's a genius and he can deal with any task better than the rest of the mortals,... even the experts in each subject,... so he's in charge of the recruiting,... and cannot blame anyone,... solution: go public with this kind of BS

I just can't wait to see how the genius react when he realized he has recruited another player way past his best and so injury-prone as NMS

ABF

I agree with you Savea was not in shape before he joined Toulon - but taking from what Rooinek wrote France is a serious place for deverloping Fat Fransie Disease - you know all those snail and frog leg dishes are indeed fattening,

As far as I can remember Savea was not in top form for Hurricanes and was at times replaced by Wes Goosen.   He was NOT a good buy by Toulon.   I think that the process on contracting players are tightening up - the fact is Nonu was not all that good playing for To ulon either and Cruden also seems to be on the way out at Montpellier.   Sopoaga is also not good enough for his club as well.

I think it has a lot to do with the team culture, game plans and coaching in NZ.   Players performing well in NZ are not necessarily up to standard in a different environment where different game plans are being used.   

New Zealanders are more analytical, they form more honest appraisals, they are proactive, they ensure that what they have is maintained from generation to generation because they respect their heritage. The polar opposite of South Africans. It's a performance based culture; to the best minds go the best positions. It isn't perfect, but it doesn't have to be. Do the right things and you'll always be competitive. 

They've had numerous points in their history where they had rocky roads to negotiate, but go back and look at the solutions to their problems. 

In 1998 they won 28% of the games. They lost five consecutive tests. The very next year they were favourites. 

In 2004 they had the wooden spoon in the Tri Nations. I recall how it was said they'd be blown apart by the British Lions the following year. 

In 2009, they were routed by the Boks. Exposed for their more one-dimensional, cavalier approach. The following year, they dominated everyone. 

They respond to a crisis differently. They learn from mistakes, and implement solutions. Being proactive learners means they set trends, as opposed to merely following them. If something upsets their well-oiled machine, they adapt. In 2009 they lost the battle of the air and breakdown. They proceeded to torment the Boks in those facets for the following eight years. How long has it taken our rugby community to pick up on the obvious? What kinds of solutions were implemented? 

How often do you see Kiwis tear their players apart? Could you imagine Carter being booed off the field? Or McCaw being berated for a pretender? Or coaches ousted out by the media or factions with their organisations? It doesn't happen. 

all what we know is that Savea beat his partner once, April 2013, almost 6 years ago,.... the case was treated as it should, it was sent to Court and the guy was judged,... I think he had to assist to some conselling programmes and make some community work,.... since then all what we know is that he's happily married,... but it seems that some people feel entitled, 6 yeras later, to write that "Savea beatS his wife",....

and in a thread talking about his rugby issues at Toulon,.... something that has nothing to do with the violence against women,... NOTHING AT ALL

ABF

It is clear the wife-beating issue had nothing to do with his performance at Toulon and I agree with you - there are variations here that have nothing to do with the rugby issue.     

He beat his wife at the same time that he was playing very well. Since then he has lost almost all form, and power.

He wouldn't be the first pro that struggled with aggression while on roids. 

He also won't be the first player to perform well under par once he came off cycles.

...which is all relevant speculation to the present discussion.

He suffers from anger issues and depression. A tough combination to live with. 

Are you speaking from experience? 

It's just a question.

CleanCutt's wife beats him, so he would know...

I get the picture...him with a knife, she with a slipper.

Roids Roids Roids!!!

Savea was a serial slapgatter when away from the test arena ....... the Hurricanes/Wellington would often bench him. Nonu suffered from the same affliction, although he matured up north.

....and the winner????....t he missus with her slipper.

Is domestic violence a major problem in NZ? 

The white fullas' firewater has a lot to answer fo r.

so those chappies can't handle Dop?

If dop was discovered today would it be banned?

Use it don't abuse it. The responsibility always rests with the individual and no amount of excuses will bury that fact. 

So there is a huge problem?

No, there are problems but I wouldn't call it huge......... not compared to the chaos it causes amongst many Aboriginal communities.

I'm not that interested in the discussion of Savea's personal relationships, but as the topic of domestic abuse was raised, I did start researching a little on domestic abuse in New Zealand. What I found is that a little over 500,000 are harmed every year in domestic abuse cases. This is supposedly a higher rate than anywhere else in the world - it is rather high, but I cannot accept that this higher than Islamic communities/countries, where women are brutalised in the most horrific ways without fear of legal action. Not without further scrutiny; Perhaps in the developed world though. I'd be interested to hear from our resident Kiwis to see what they think about that. Is this another neo-liberal embellishment in their attempts to demonise certain sectors of society, or is there some validity to it?  

20 Worst Countries For Spousal Abuse

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New Zealand is home to 3 million people and 60 million sheep

Top twenty countries for spousal abuse...yet not one country in the top twenty is predominantly white. 

The top ten is dominated by African countries. 

Clearly us evil white men are a cancer.

 The white patriarchy seems to create the safest environment for woman...yet it's supposedly the main hurdle to them achieving safety and equality.

One has to laugh.

Globalists don't care about race, but people generally do. It's a means to an end. In fact, Globalists don't like human beings. Every cause, every endeavour is anti-human. The attack on white Caucasians (they aren't all white. It's all in the name) is merely the way the ruling class are depowering the West. Reducing it to a meagre state and implement their anti-human policies. I warn these minorities, when the objectives are met, you'll be wallowing in despair along with the white man. You are only give what is convenient as and when it suits those who give it. Baiting greed and a relativistic world view. As I have spoken before, Globalism is entirely worthless. It's readily apparent that it's rotten to the core.