CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Jun 2014, 13:02#2
3ku1
Agree with you - but there is problems in scrumming and line outs and they really fed of the numerous handling errors of the Scots. They have to play SA on Sunday and England is to play Ireland.
I think that SA will be a much more difficult to beat than England = so if they can get through on Sunday they could in the WC. However, Basically I do not think they will beat SA - they just do not have the forwards to get them over the line.
Hope the weather would be better on Sunday than it was today.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Jun 2014, 13:03#3
3ku1
Agree with you - but there is problems in scrumming and line outs and they really fed of the numerous handling errors of the Scots. They have to play SA on Sunday and England is to play Ireland.
I think that SA will be a much more difficult to beat than England = so if they can get through on Sunday they could win the WC. However, b asically I do not think they will beat SA - they just do not have the forwards to get them over the line.
Hope the weather would be better on Sunday than it was today.
10 Jun 2014, 13:07#4
I thought this frontrow was much betrer then the one againgst sa, Scotland have a very good front row and dominated the scrum. If NZ can gain some parity in set peices, SA werent all convincing SA are beatable, it wont be easy but NZ at least have a chance, for the sake of the wc the sponsors well want NZ in the final.
10 Jun 2014, 13:09#5
Tell me Mike ... I see that superbru hasn't made any additional picks for the semis and finals available.
How come?
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Jun 2014, 13:22#6
Clean Cut
Patience - it should be up today.
I think they had to wait for the matches today to make the matches for Sunday available - since it was not at all clear who would be ranked and who would play who on Sunday. I elsewhere posted the rankings - as well as the matches to be played on Sunday.
10 Jun 2014, 14:12#7
I saw nothing in this game to suggest we'd bother England or South Africa. Richie Moenga got the back line functioning well but the forward pack is as dire as I've ever seen.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Jun 2014, 14:33#8
Best backs in the game my arse.......your wing is a class act and the little fullback is handy......for the rest, they don't smell the Baby Bok backs
10 Jun 2014, 14:44#9
Obviously Mike ... thanks!!
10 Jun 2014, 14:49#10
Yeah well you aint biast at all are you lol, ive never ever seen a sa blogger on this site ever say a nz playet is better then a sa player. Mckenzie off the bench is up their too.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Jun 2014, 14:53#11
Well 3ku1 to say that the AB backs are the best in the comp is a joke when it was clear to see in their game against SA that they were no match for the Baby Bok backs and to think we were without our best back in inside centre Esterhuizen.........the only AB back who can live with Pollard, Esterhuizen, Jessie Kriel, Dan Kriel and Lloyd Greef is your winger, who is pure class
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Jun 2014, 16:32#12
3ku1
To say that the AB backs are the best in the competition are stretching it a bit. They have two very good backline players - namely Li and the full back who played against the Baby Boks.
Lienert-Brown is dead average and I do not think that Hickey is better than Pollard.
I would say there are at least three better backline players in the Baby Boks team than in the All black Under 20's - namely Esterhuizen, Pollard and Jesse Kriel.
However, we have seen what both teams produced on Friday and it did not look good for the AB youngsters. I have a feeling the same will apply on Saturday. Individual AB backline players look good - but only when the opposition players make errors handing ball possession to the individuals when they are in in space.
MDMonkey D Luffy
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MDMonkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
10 Jun 2014, 17:06#13
i agree with poie, i see nothing in the NZ u20 team which should make us feel confident against SA and england.
big wins from the NZ u20 team against the likes of scotland are like when the All Blacks beat scotland, no big deal and it should happen all the time.
after all we dont lose to scotland or ireland for that matter in the XV man game, but we do set the bar a lot higher then everybody else,