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Jurie caves in to kiwis unreasonable demands

Started by Beeno14 REPLIES178 VIEWS· 09 Apr 2017, 18:11
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
09 Apr 2017, 18:11
#1
09 Apr 2017, 18:11#1
Here we are the country funding the Super  comp and Jurie Roux and company agree to have 2 sides cut will nz have none! This is absurd. Tell the miserable kiwis where to get off for Pete's sake.  Next we know the kings stay in the comp and the the Cheetahs and Lions drop out.Ex Supersport

Sanzaar announced on Sunday that Vodacom Super Rugby had been restructured for 2018 and would kick off with a three-conference, 15-team format featuring four teams from South Africa, five from New Zealand, four from Australia, one from Japan and one from Argentina.

The streamlining of the competition comes at the end of a nine-month consultation and strategic review process that looked at the short and long-term prospects for Sanzaar’s competitions.

The decision to reduce Vodacom Super Rugby competitors by three teams was unanimously agreed by the four Sanzaar partners. Franchises, broadcasters and fans were all engaged in the process.

“Fans, media and broadcasters have spoken and we have listened to them,” said Jurie Roux, CEO of SA Rugby. “The 18-team Vodacom Super Rugby competition has not worked and we had to face up to that hard fact. The integrity of the format and the lack of competitiveness in too many matches were major issues that needed addressing.

“From a South African rugby high performance perspective we’ve had to acknowledge that the dilution of talent and resources across six franchises – at a time when rand weakness has led to more departures to Europe and Japan – has seriously affected our ability to compete across the board.

“As a rugby nation we need several strong franchises all of whom are in with a serious chance of challenging for the title and we could no longer say that. A reduction in the number of South African franchises was the unavoidable conclusion, especially when put in the context of Sanzaar’s long-term strategy of adding to our tournament's appeal and commercial success which, in time, will mean greater returns for SA Rugby.”

SA Rugby will now begin internal consultations to identify its four entrants to the 2018 competition.

The newly established Franchise Rugby Committee (made up of representatives of all six teams) will meet on Tuesday to finalise the criteria for selection. Their recommendation will go to the Executive Council. Once that recommendation is agreed it will need to be approved by the General Council of SA Rugby.

Sanzaar Chairman, Brent Impey said: “The decision to revert to a 15-team format reflects a consensus view of the mandated Sanzaar Executive Committee that met in London recently. It was not the determination of any one union or stakeholder and follows a thorough assessment and review of the tournament over the last nine months.

“Sanzaar is delighted that its major broadcast partners have after due consideration agreed to the restructured format within the existing broadcast agreements. Our broadcaster partners are an important stakeholder and their vision for Super Rugby moving forward is the same as ours.

“This decision has not been an easy one and we recognise the difficulty associated with reducing the number of teams in Australia and South Africa. Naturally we understand that there will be some very disappointed franchises but the tournament’s long-term future and the economic reality of the business at present is something that had to be addressed.

“The decision to retain the Sunwolves is linked directly to Sanzaar’s strategic plan for the future. The potential for growth of the sport in Asia off the back of the establishment of the Sunwolves and the impending RWC in 2019 is significant. It remains an obvious focus for the organisation and a Japanese Super Rugby franchise is key to that strategy.”

Roux admitted a reduction in teams was a bitter pill for South Africa to swallow but his organisation had faced up to the fact that retaining six teams would have put South African rugby at an even greater risk.

“We have six strategic imperatives for 2017 – two of the most critical of which are Springbok performance and financial sustainability,” he said.

“Retaining a number of under-performing teams in Vodacom Super Rugby makes no sense from a high performance or financial point of view. We no longer have the resources to support them to the required level.”

Roux said the large number of South Africans now playing overseas had hastened the decision: “There are about five or six Vodacom Super Rugby squads’ worth of South Africans playing overseas.(AS NOTED BY BEENO)

“In 2015, 257 South Africans appeared for leading teams overseas; last year it was 313 – including 65 Springboks. There were eight Van der Merwes, seven Du Preez’s and six Du Plessis’s alone. That has got to have had an impact on our competitiveness.”

The new format will see the Sunwolves move into the Australian Conference while the South African conference will continue to feature the Jaguares.

The winners of each conference plus another five teams with the greatest number of log points will qualify for the play-offs.  

SA franchises will play teams from both the Australian and New Zealand conference every year although the duration of the available ‘window’ – between the end of the compulsory rest period and the start of the international season – means that there are not enough weeks to play all teams.

Tournament format:

•        120-match regular season plus seven finals

•        15 teams

•        Three conferences

•        18 rounds [16 matches per team, two bye weeks]

•        Each team will play eight matches within its conference (four home and four away)

•        Each team will play eight cross-conference matches – against four of the five teams from the other two conferences (four at home and four away)

•        Each team will have played 12 of the other teams within the season (85 per cent, which is up from 70 per cent in 2016).

•        Eight team finals series: Three conference winners and five wild card places – the next best performing teams after the conference winners regardless of conference.

SA Rugby said that it hoped it would be able to confirm its 2018 Vodacom Super Rugby participants by the end of June.



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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
10 Apr 2017, 11:45
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10 Apr 2017, 11:45#2
 Aren't you forgetting birdbrain that it was your crowd that pushed for the expansion to six  when you couldn't even field 2 competitive teams and have turned super rugby into a pigs ear. And dont deny it because its as you stated you bring the most cash to the table which unfortunatly Australia and us have to bow to SA stupidity


Thankfully your so called brains trust have realised that if they dont cut away some of the deadwood the comp is totally doomed.With your lack of coaching talent and players maybe they should look at culling 4 teams as two competitive teams would be the most you could field.
Unfortunatly or maybe fortunate for you Australia rugby is in a worse state than SA.
So if "our" demands are unreasonable what do you recommend, cut the 5 best teams from the comp so SA teams have an easy path?Why dont you face it you need us more than we need you when it comes to the rugby because without us kiwi's the competition would look like a third rate northen hemisphere non rating bore fest.

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WardadPro6,663 posts
10 Apr 2017, 12:49
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10 Apr 2017, 12:49#3
 So every Kiwi team has at least 1 super trophy and at the start of the season all are at least in the running .ONE SA team has won a super comp and at the start of the season the bottom 3 saffa teams have no chance at all ,prove me wrong if you can .Hell even THREE Aussie teams have a super trophy and they are supposedly weaker than SA according to Beanbrain .4 SA teams will make for a stronger showing by SA and you guys can use the Curry cup for relegation cant you ? All our teams are viable and are proven winners so why should we lose any ?
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
10 Apr 2017, 12:57
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10 Apr 2017, 12:57#4
I agree 100% with the NZ'ers here. Four teams is all we can afford to stock at the moment with the talent we have available. Later on we can see how things pan out, but at the moment, I'd rather have 4 competitive teams, than 6 and only one or two are even vaguely competitive with the NZ sides. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Apr 2017, 13:10
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10 Apr 2017, 13:10#5
 Bluebok
I agree 100% with you.   I would like to see some players of for instance the Cheetahs and Kings going to the remaining franchises - especially to the struggling Bulls.   They can for instance use Zeilinga and decent loosies.  
The Bulls also seriously need better props and a better hooker.   Van Jaarsveld would do wonders for them and would also be a better captain than Strauss.   
If they can get a better coach - the Bulls could be a different team next year.  
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