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Just when I started to talk Jake up

Started by Saffolk 17 REPLIES305 VIEWS· 27 Mar 2014, 11:41
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SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Mar 2014, 11:41
#1
27 Mar 2014, 11:41#1

the wheels look to be coming off. Dropping SP Marais and playing Mvovo at 15 is laughable, as is playing Alberts at lock.......not to mention dropping Swiel and Esterhuizen from the match 23 in total

 

 

Poor calls Jake, very poor

ST
Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
27 Mar 2014, 12:03
#2
27 Mar 2014, 12:03#2
In losing Reinach, PSDT and Jordaan they pretty much lost the title winning credentials there in my opinion. I think Jake is looking to exploit Mvovo's potential strike power coming into the line whilst popping JPP there. Overall Mvovo has done a lot of work this season and deserves a shot in my opinion. If it doesn't pan out, then Marais is on the bench. Overall I would have JP on the bench to cover wing and fullback. I doubt he will be able to match what Mvovo has produced thus far. But we wait and see...
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
27 Mar 2014, 12:16
#3
27 Mar 2014, 12:16#3
 
It's not exactly as if Swiel and Esterhuizen lit the world on fire last week, Stupid.

Some talented players hit the ground running ... others take awhile to step up. Seems Swiel and Esterhuizen fall under the latter.

Just cause they're your favourites doesn't mean Jake's wrong. How many times have you not put your foot in your mouth with the absurd picks you fancied (Jantjies, HouGat, JJ) only to come back feeling and looking stupid.

Hmmm?

Jake Whi te = WC winning coach. 

Stupid = Racist, Ignorant Drunk, Low Life, Liar.

Nuff said!!

 




ST
Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
27 Mar 2014, 12:23
#4
27 Mar 2014, 12:23#4
Jake did say that he wanted to bring Swiel into the reckoning much later into the competition; Jake knows he isn't ready yet. He looks promising so it would be a shame to destroy his development.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Mar 2014, 12:45
#5
27 Mar 2014, 12:45#5
 Alberts at close on 120kg and with grunt in the tight exhanges will do well at lock and deysel is in my view a better 7 than Alberts - much better work rate. The pack is about as good as they can pick. How will the backs go is the questions. Some bold moves by Jake as he explores the potential of his squad.Agrre re Sweil - handle with care.
Jake made a number of changes at the brumbies which came of spectacualry so lets see waht happens. Mvovo is a odd one for sure!!!
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Mar 2014, 12:53
#6
27 Mar 2014, 12:53#6

You have to admire Jake. He knows SP Marais had a poor game last week, he was just going through the motions. So he has a quick think and produces Mvovo out of a hat. In a stroke he has an attacking option, has sent Marais a message and has accomodated his two most experienced wings. What he loses defensively with Mvovo at the back, he picks up with Ndungane's superb cover play.

 

Next we have the kids Swiel and Esterhuizen who need more time, being given more time. And as we know Jake has always rated Alberts....he gives him the big task of shoring up the feeble Sharks locking pair.

 

Bold, imaginative and far too much for the average SA fan. The howling has already started.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Mar 2014, 13:03
#7
27 Mar 2014, 13:03#7
 Moz I am inclined to agree with you. However there are risks involved here particularly with Mvovo but he has cover on the bench and can limit the damage if it is backfiring.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Mar 2014, 13:08
#8
27 Mar 2014, 13:08#8
 Mozart
I poor performance is the norm for changing a team - then Francois Steyn should be the first one to go.  He was atrocious last week and let me remind you about his stats:-
Steyn0/0126/3/4000029/30/010/0
His kicking at goal was acceptable - the rest of his game bloody poor. Poor ball carries, atrocious loss of possession - poor tackling and atrocious giving away penalty straight in front of the posts.   This is an atrociously poor performance which anybody would call making a farce of the game of rugby.
You again invented again poor play on the part of Marais and there was no evidence of that.  But then invention and untruths are your stock in trade. 
Marais0/0010/5/129604213/00/000/0
Why do you always have to dream up rubbish like your statement on Marais?     


ST
Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
27 Mar 2014, 13:15
#9
27 Mar 2014, 13:15#9
Nobody be messin wid Michael, he fo seriou 'ayt






SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Mar 2014, 14:15
#10
27 Mar 2014, 14:15#10

Ah so all of a sudden Mvovo is the answer at 15 when most have been telling us how average he is. Got to laugh at how a player usually persecuted by most, suddenly finds favour at 15, because the favoured coach made the call - what a joke  

 

 

Klown you really are one stupid prick......Esterhuizen was on the field for all of 10min and dropped a pass......from that you conclude that he could be a slow starter......bwhaaahaaaa

 

 

Jake has cocked the selections up 

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
27 Mar 2014, 14:42
#11
27 Mar 2014, 14:42#11
 
Well speak again on Monday.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Mar 2014, 16:21
#12
27 Mar 2014, 16:21#12
Once again Dave you miss the point. Mvovo is a competitive S15 wing....but hasn't shown the ability to step up to tests.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Mar 2014, 11:16
#13
28 Mar 2014, 11:16#13

Wrong Moz, Mvovo has always been a good player who has had to live in the shadows of JP and Habana......always good enough for a test wing.. ...but a fullback he is not.......he does not have the rugby brain material to play there and Jake has got it wrong.......much like him playing Alberts at lock and dropping Swiel for Fred and Esterhuizen for Williams

 

 

These are all poor selections

BO
BobinatorNewbie1 posts
28 Mar 2014, 11:47
#14
28 Mar 2014, 11:47#14
 Mvovo has never looked bad under the high ball, and he's really best when he's in space. I only worry about his boot. It's a brave call, but i'm pretty optimistic that he can do well there.

I thought Swiel looked terrible against the Bulls. No problem with him being left out. Not sure why White hasn't slid Steyn into the number 10 jersey though. He did an admirable job there when Lambie had tickbite fever a few weeks ago.


ST
Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
28 Mar 2014, 12:07
#15
28 Mar 2014, 12:07#15
 I back Mvovo because he has shown an increase in work rate and much more accurate game. I think that if Jake can get the Sharks playing the right blend Mvovo at fullbak can work. It's not bias, it's just logic. Jake doesn't stuff players randomly in positions like our other coaches, he has a plan. That's the basis for my optimism.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Mar 2014, 12:35
#16
28 Mar 2014, 12:35#16
 bobinator
Welcome to the Board.
White would not play Steyn at 10 -
*  because other than kicking at goal - the rest of his play at 10 was poor; and
*  because it would leave a gaping hole at 12 - since Williams is not really up to standard and I think White is hesitating about playing Esterhuizen at 12.  
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
28 Mar 2014, 13:31
#17
28 Mar 2014, 13:31#17
 Are you saying that Steyn is the best option at 12? And that gaping hole at 12............... is that on defence, perhaps?
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Mar 2014, 22:05
#18
28 Mar 2014, 22:05#18
 Dof doos
I think that Steyn this year was poor in his last four games - whether he was used at 10 or 12.   Esterhuizen with 12 minutes playing time did better in the last Sharks game than Steyn did in 80 minutes.
Steyn is a gaping hole where ever he plays - but that is not what is happening at present.   Play him at 10 and the gaping hole moves to 10 - otherwise it stays at 12.
  

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