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Justin Marshall tells it like it is

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BrycyPro4,671 posts
10 Mar 2013, 20:28
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10 Mar 2013, 20:28#1

Bean Brain yr favourite Kiwi speaks about a certain cheating yarpy ref... Please note as yr favourite Kiwi that you wish all Kiwis were like tells it like it is.

OPINION: So you're a Crusaders or Highlanders fan. Proud southern men. What's up with them then?

There's been more off-season build-up talk about the two South Island franchises than just about anybody else.

The Crusaders are still the yardstick despite not having won the title since 2008. And the Highlanders nabbed a number of big names to add to an already impressive squad.

Yet here we are and both are 0 from 2. Is this a portent of more dismal things to come?

I sense the Highlanders are in far greater trouble than the Crusaders.

The Crusaders lost on Friday night because they made a stupid mistake at a critical time and because their opposition were not only good enough to take advantage but also mentally tough enough to shut down the fightback (and that says quite a bit about the Hurricanes . . . but back to Mark Hammett's men later).

For 70 minutes, the Crusaders played like the Crusaders of old. They were tough, they were ruthless, the set piece was strong, the kick-offs outstanding . . . everything was on song.

Then in the 71st minute, they had a brain explosion. Ahead by six points and with a bonus point already in the bag, they attempted a move that defied all logic. Yes, but for the intercept, they might have scored a try, but that misses the point.

There was no need to risk their lead with such a difficult play. It was the sort of move you would have expected the Hurricanes to pull as the team chasing the win.

This was a time for caution from the Crusaders. A time to play the percentages. Instead, they went all "Hail Mary" when there was no need to.

At this level, in a tight game, one dumb decision can be the difference between winning and losing.

Todd Blackadder will not be impressed with the decision-making of his experienced players. But that aside, he'll be a lot happier than the week before when his team rolled over meekly to the Blues.

The Crusaders will come again.

But the Highlanders' problems are more deep-seated.

Jamie Joseph has been desperately unlucky to lose Tamati Ellison and Nasi Manu. The impact on the squad and game plan has been profound.

The loss of Ellison has exposed the one-dimensional play of the rest of the Highlanders midfielders. Ma'a Nonu, Phil Burleigh and Shaun Treeby are all power runners who lack Ellison's ability to create an outside break.

Midfielders like Rene Ranger and Tim Nanai-Williams are creating more for their teams because of a similar ability whereas the Highlanders are running short crash balls all the time. All that's doing is allowing the opposition defence to drift laterally and double team the outside runners.

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This is compounding the Highlanders' woes further inside where they are losing the physical forward battles they were winning last year.

Manu is key to that forward game because he is the team's best power runner. Like a few of his team-mates, Manu lacks some of the subtle skills of other New Zealand forwards such as passing before the line, or exploiting space. But it didn't matter last year because he was so good at getting over the advantage line, and other forwards like Adam Thomson had those skills.

But with Manu injured and Thomson gone, the limitations of some Highlanders forwards are being exposed.

Too many of the players are the same and there's limited scope for Joseph to change the game up in either the forwards or the backs.

Coupled with the midfield backline problem, the Highlanders are doing it tough and I'm not sure it's going to get any easier from here either.

One thing I would do is move Ben Smith to centre.

Hammett has less worries than Joseph.

I like the look of this Hurricanes outfit and the rugby they're trying to play. I'm impressed with the intent and resolve. The rookie backline (with Conrad Smith the only old head) bristles with talent and purpose.

Yes, they still have lapses that can cost them dearly.

But they showed last Friday night that they can close out a game against hardened opposition. As a result, I am confident they will be there at the business end of the season.

For me, the Chiefs still remain the standout Kiwi franchise, though.

They were desperately unlucky not to win in Cape Town in a great game of rugby. There was a diabolical miss by the referee late in the game that should have given Gareth Anscombe a very kickable winning penalty.

It was a travesty they were robbed that way. (No surprises there , it's been happening for years)

Yet I reckon when the coaching staff review the game, they will be more than happy with the effort.

Plus the Chiefs took away two bonus points from a visit to Stormers territory and that's a rare feat.

It's yet another demonstration of the depth of character in this Chiefs outfit.

MARSHALL LORE

Aaron Cruden is currently the competition's best No 10.

One blip, costly as it was against the Stormers, cannot obscure his outstanding form. He is leading the pack among the first-fives while his partner in crime, Tim Nanai-Williams, has been equally impressive in the midfield.

Ben Afeaki is a freak. He is showing why he is so highly rated. For a prop, his work rate on both attack and defence, not to mention his vision and, yes, even his passing game, is absolutely outstanding. He will be an All Black this year, mark my words.

The much talked about changes to the TMO seems to be working.

There was a great example in the Crusaders v Hurricanes match. It looked as though Matt Todd had scored but the ref thought he spied a knock on from Kieran Read.

He decided to look and was correct in his suspicions. Justice served, TMO changes vindicated.

- © Fairfax NZ News

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Mar 2013, 21:04
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10 Mar 2013, 21:04#2

brycy

I did expect some excuse for the loss of the Chiefs - but the one that is offered is lame,   The ball came out of a maul and was lieing loose at the back of the maul.  A Stormer player was onside,rushed up and dived on the ball  and divd on the ball, allowing for it to be recovered by the Stormers.  If the player concerned was off-side a penalty was automatic - but he was not and that is the end of the story,   Moral of the story - dont let balls lie  loose on a rugby field - you may lose possession or worse,

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
10 Mar 2013, 22:39
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10 Mar 2013, 22:39#3

@brycy,

i think that game against the stormers confirmed soemthing that i noticed last year and thats cruden is not as effective against some of the stronger teams when not playing at home.
he makes errors which defies the level of experience he has and also cant seem to get the backline to function as well as others.
IMO carter is still years ahead of him as a whole. 2012 cruden was the best flyhalf in the spXV by a ciountry mile and excluding that unstoppable juggernaut performance he had against the irish, every other starting game hes had he was not as dominant.

i was very pissed of to see him try a grubber kick in his own 22, imean WTF??? thats high school error and even though that tactic had paid of for the chiefs minutes earlier, he should have known better and IMO carter would have booted that ball forterritory consdiering the scoreboard situation and the need to keep building on the lead they just got. but be that as it may, i just hope cruden learns from it and moves on to hammer those kings for a 6.

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
10 Mar 2013, 22:43
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10 Mar 2013, 22:43#4

@mikey,

i disagree with that refs call, but thats not why the chiefs lost nor was it the worst descion ive ever seenor will see.
i do think the refs are making way too many errors, but the worst ive seen was that argentinan ref who was in charge of the rebels waratahs game, he clearly had no idea what was going on and wasnt fit to ref a currie cup or ITM game.
 

BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
10 Mar 2013, 23:10
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10 Mar 2013, 23:10#5

Wasn't it that Kiwi man (under the Aussie flag now) Steve Walsh that "missed" the Bulls playing the ball on the deck in the 2007 Super 14 final in Durban that ultimately cost the Sharks?

See Brycy, it happens to kiwi refs too. Just a lot more often.

Hey, try go a full game where the ref misses things. It cant be easy to do but Bryce Lawrence did it anyway so spare us this crap of SA refs. We are world reknown for having the best and most fair refs!

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
10 Mar 2013, 23:24
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10 Mar 2013, 23:24#6

@boklogic,

i think ur missing th point of brycys thread. beeno1 aka stormingged has in the past treated marshalls word as gospel, and what brycy is implying is that according to beeno1 aka storminged, what marshall said must therfore be true.

its not something to get ur knickers tied up into a knot, LMAO, :oP

lolz, bruce lawernece again??? sigh,,,, i love how nothing ever gets said about wayne barnes or kapaln, but then again kiwis do get over thngs with more ease and grace as this forum has consistently proven. not painting u all iwht that sourgrape ignorant brush, but a good chunk of u for sure.
 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,298 posts
11 Mar 2013, 01:04
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11 Mar 2013, 01:04#7

 @sasuke, Cruden looked like he was doing a planned move to break the Stormers defence with the grubber kick.

The grubber kick got 2 tries, and I think also possibally allmost a 3rd one. The way the centers ran onto the ball so quickly when he kicked makes me think it was a planned move to beat the strongest defence in the tournament for the last few years. 

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BoklogicPro1,978 posts
11 Mar 2013, 04:49
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11 Mar 2013, 04:49#8

Sasuke, in another post he referred to the ref cheating. Can a game of rugby not be won anymore by simply the better team on the day.

 

Wayne Barnes missed a forward pass. A crucial one as it turned out to be but he was miles behind the action. An honest mistake it looked like! Never confirmed a cheat.

 

Bryce Lawrence was confirmed a cheat and the whole world got to see it. He has been branded a cheat now. No ref has ever cheated like that! He was disgustingly blatant. Kaplan has never been a cheat. He is pompous and pedantic I will admit but he is consistent for both teams.

 

Kiwi's get over things a lot quicker?? Ha ha Sas, how about getting over the '95 WC then. I still hear stories of gold watches and some lady named Suzie..Talk about getting over things..Ha ha thanks for the laugh! Could that win not just have been because Jonah Lomu was NZL's gameplan and we had his number! No plan B is what you call that! Reminds me of the kiwi teams this weekend infact..Backs are not working as forwards getting smacked around and no plan b ;-)

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