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Kerevi and Havili demonstrate modern centre play not only crashball

Started by Mozart20 REPLIES842 VIEWS· 06 Sept 2021, 05:08
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Sept 2021, 05:08
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06 Sept 2021, 05:08#1
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That’s 23 runs by Kerevi, 97yards 4 defenders beaten, 3 offloads!
Havili ran less but  effectively off turnover ball and showed a lot of creative touches.
So much for the theory there is just no space for centres so Dud style contact is the whole modern game. 
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
06 Sept 2021, 08:30
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06 Sept 2021, 08:30#2

The argument for there not being enough space is the pinnacle of idiocy amongst the SA rugby community seeing as your centres are supposed to create that space, especially 12! We don't like centres who can pass, we don't like centres who can run any useful lines. Just dumb head on running or deer-in-headlights frantic scrambles from 10, 13 annd 15 into dead-ends. 

The saddest part, Esterhuizen is a better distributor than anything New Zealand and Australia have right now. He outplayed Damian under Josè even though Jose only opened the playbook for Dumbian, and out the ball in his hands. When it comes to attack analytics and the backs, Josè is actually a very stupid man. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Sept 2021, 16:09
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06 Sept 2021, 16:09#3

Well Augie, there certainly isn’t enough space if you insist on running into people!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Sept 2021, 16:12
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06 Sept 2021, 16:12#4

Esterhuizen was dropped by Erasmus from contention based on performances nothing else - and the guy came short - end of story.   No amount of fictitious drivel will change that fact.      

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
06 Sept 2021, 22:32
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06 Sept 2021, 22:32#5
If you had actually watched the game you will have noticed that neither Havili nor Kerevi operated in space Havili did little of note and most of Kerevi’s impressions were through power player - beating defenders was bashing through or handing them off Nothing has changed with reference to the lack of space for centres or the impressions they make
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Sept 2021, 03:00
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07 Sept 2021, 03:00#6

Kerevi has splattered Dud in the past….I hope things go better on Saturday. 

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
07 Sept 2021, 03:53
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07 Sept 2021, 03:53#7

"lack of space for centres or the impressions they make"

SPACE CREATION BY CENTRES

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Sept 2021, 05:15
#8
07 Sept 2021, 05:15#8

Apparently the lack of space applies only to South African centres…even the Lions in the guise of Henshaw found space .

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Sept 2021, 17:36
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07 Sept 2021, 17:36#9
Bullshit, none of the NZ or Oz centres created space and neither did Henshaw Henshaw was put into space once, he never created that space Kerevi did exactly what de Allende does and that is head down and smash As for Kerevi getting the better of DA or splattering him, that is utter rubbish
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Sept 2021, 18:34
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07 Sept 2021, 18:34#10

Nope Kerevi was much more imaginative than Dud ever is….he owns Dud.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
07 Sept 2021, 18:41
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07 Sept 2021, 18:41#11

Damian gets bettered in every test. Fortunately for Dumbian, the Plastiks and the media are even dumber than him. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Sept 2021, 19:19
#12
07 Sept 2021, 19:19#12
The amazing thing about Dud is in 2018 nobody thought he was test quality…but in 2020, doing exactly the same thing, he suddenly became the ‘best 12 in the game’.


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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Sept 2021, 18:23
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08 Sept 2021, 18:23#13
Kerevi more imaginative than DA - that’s a joke Kerevi has not played in the Oz side for ages - I wonder why? He has NEVER owned DA DA has been test quality since he started playing pro rugby
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
08 Sept 2021, 19:15
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08 Sept 2021, 19:15#14

Dumbian flubbed every interaction with Am and the outside backs in every good attacking situation. He is the least usable back in the competition. But that's how Josè the team killer likes it: Dumb, Predictable, untalented and heaviness without strength. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Sept 2021, 19:29
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08 Sept 2021, 19:29#15
Oh omelette shut up you ignorant prick No one cares what you think
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
08 Sept 2021, 19:38
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08 Sept 2021, 19:38#16

Kerevi more imaginative than DA - that’s a joke

Name one creative thing that Damian does. Not his offload game in 2015 that is now part of history. Name one creative thing that 2021 Damian does.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
08 Sept 2021, 20:07
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08 Sept 2021, 20:07#17

Dumbian did pull off that amazing flipper pass behind Am's head with a burst through to the tryline begging. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Sept 2021, 22:01
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08 Sept 2021, 22:01#18
Pakie name one creative thing any test centre does these days Take your time
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Sept 2021, 00:24
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09 Sept 2021, 00:24#19

Well Kerevi offloaded 3 times against NZ. The last time Dud did that was when he was aping SBW in 2015.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
09 Sept 2021, 00:24
#20
09 Sept 2021, 00:24#20

Well, we have centres who can actually read play and distribute. Run smart lines. Players who generate momentum, who open up space. Dumbian does none of these things. Too unskilled to let go of the ball (thankfully those thoughtless squirts you called offloads earlier in his career are gone), and not physical enough to really open up the opposition. No powerback, especially 12, ever gets dumped in several consecutive tests. 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
13 Sept 2021, 08:55
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13 Sept 2021, 08:55#21
We keep hearing that DDA is such a skilful player and how his talent is so respected by teammates. And his supporters keep hiding behind the “game plan” argument. The guy has been a Bok since forever but still can’t switch to run with ball under the correct arm, still struggles to look for support and time a pass, still is more eager to ruck than run off a shoulder and still hates running at a gap. I don’t get it. Honestly, it’s not difficult to see that they guy is both a slow and stubborn learner who won’t be much missed if replaced with somebody else.
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