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Key questions: Should Cruden be worried? NZ Herald

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Sept 2014, 12:42
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28 Sept 2014, 12:42#1

Patrick McKenrdy: He would have been worried regardless of Barrett's peformance - he still has another week to watch his rival take another opportunity.

Barrett was composed and tidy - all you can ask for really - and his goalkicking was superb. He will be pleased with that.

Chris Rattue: He'll be worried anyway...but Barrett didn't do enough to tear the No. 10 jersey off Cruden or leap frog him if Carter still heads the queue. Barrett is lively but not clinical. Johannesburg is the real test.

Did Malakai Fekitoa do enough to earn a start at second-five against the Springboks in Johannesburg?

Gregor Paul: Yes. He was explosive and high impact. He made a few mistakes but the ratio of good to bad was way in favour of the former. His explosive defence, ability to win turnovers and beat defenders was imperssive. He offers more in that regard than Ryan Crotty and maybe it would be best to chuck him stright back into the fray while he's running hot.

Patrick McKendry: Yes, Fekitoa was outstanding. The passing, defence and overall game sense were all there, as was his main point of difference - his explosive running.

Chris Rattue: He caused the Pumas a few problems but the All Blacks have made it clear he is a temporary No. 12. Crotty makes excellent decisons including on defence which is probably what the coaches are worried about with Fekitoa. I'd like to see Fekitoa let loose against the 'Boks on but suspect they will go with Crotty as a specialist.

Was Dane Coles missed?

Gregor Paul: Surprisingly not as much as many would have imagined. Keven Mealamu looked a different player: mobile, agile and into everything. He got about well, threw much better than he has at the lineout and he looked close to being back to his old self.

Patrick McKendry: No, Mealamu was brilliant - surprisingly so given his injury problems and lineout struggles of the recent past. The running game was back and so was his ability to turn over the ball at what was an extremely physical contact area.

Chris Rattue: Not as much as seemed likely given Mealamu's patchy form so far. The veteran went very well against the Pumas but the issue is whether he can sustain that on old legs.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Sept 2014, 12:49
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28 Sept 2014, 12:49#2
 Barrett did fine, his kicks to Savea were inches off & would have been judged brilliant if Savea was not slightly ahead of the kicker.
Fekitoa showed a lot, a much more well rounded player than I thought he was. Good kicks, passes, defence and attack.
Kev player really well - I didn't think he could go for so long & play so well. Well done Kev!!
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
28 Sept 2014, 13:52
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28 Sept 2014, 13:52#3
 IMO Barrett is the more complete 10 by far. Cruden has his bag of tricks but I always get the impression that he folds under pressure. It isn't apparent, as the AB's and Chiefs are rarely placed under real pressure, but there were a couple of telling moments in recent years.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Sept 2014, 14:09
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28 Sept 2014, 14:09#4
Barrett should have had a relatively easy time against the Pumas so hard to compare Cruden vs Barrett on that game. 
I have always thought Barrett would replace Cruden in the pecking order but Cruden is gritty & has played well. He is the inc  u  m bent (not counting Carter) so it will take a while for Barrett to overtake him. Glad we have so many good choices
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
28 Sept 2014, 14:16
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28 Sept 2014, 14:16#5
 Any news on Carter in the ITM Cup - I heard Canterbury went down to Southland and Carter had some sort of injury again. Hope it is not too serious as he was hoping to make it back for Bledisloe 3.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Sept 2014, 14:26
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28 Sept 2014, 14:26#6
Hakwa: I didn't read anywhere about an injury to Carter. This was an assessment of his performance:
 "DC update
In his first game for Canterbury since 2009, and just 28th since 2002, Dan Carter played 40 minutes, well within himself, but ticking all the right boxes with no errors."
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
28 Sept 2014, 15:04
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28 Sept 2014, 15:04#7
 Barret had a very correct game. No mistakes, good options and good kicks both in play and to goal but if he wants the incumbent place over Carter and Cruden he has to provide something more to the team. Let see what happens at Ellis Park.....

Feikitoa had a very good game also but he's very reluctant to pass the ball. He's always looking for going straight against the opposite defense which is more suited for a 13 than a 12.
I would like to see Crotty at 12 and Feikitoa at 13 but not next weekend, may be for the EOYT. If Crotty is fit I would play with him and C. Smith.

Mealamu was a big surprise for me and a very pleasant one. Glad to see he has recovered his old attributes and form.
CL
ClaydogClub Pro691 posts
28 Sept 2014, 15:54
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28 Sept 2014, 15:54#8
I agree cloudy. There where times when you just new he would not pass. I probably wouldn't either if I could run like that. I thought Barrett was good and a strong showing against the bokke should have crudes worried. Congratulations All Blacks on the championship.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Sept 2014, 16:44
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28 Sept 2014, 16:44#9
Of course the Crude must be worried. If he regains his place in the wee abs he has the 
Boks to face and guys like Pollard and Coetzee and Duane to contend with! Time to hang up his boots?

AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
29 Sept 2014, 03:41
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29 Sept 2014, 03:41#10
 The only time Cruden should have any concern's is if New Zealand runs dry.\
He is and will be #2 flyhalf to Carter for some time to come.
3K
3ku1Pro2,580 posts
29 Sept 2014, 06:14
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29 Sept 2014, 06:14#11
 Lol Beeno not sure if you have kept count, but Cruden is more then capable of holding his own againgst those so called "great" players just saying. I think once again SA fans are getting ahead of themself with wee Pollard. Talented kid, but so was Goosen or Lambie. Lets's just wait till we declare him SA big great hope. None of this means anything. Carter is still and well be for a while NZ and the Worlds's #1 Flyhalf once he regains fitness and form. 
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
29 Sept 2014, 13:13
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29 Sept 2014, 13:13#12
 Nobody here seems to be crucifying Pollard for missing touch from penalty kicks on THREE occasions on Saturday. Poor old Morne copped it big time for missing it once....Is it because "golden boy" can do no wrong??
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