Etzebeth for me, big, mobile lump of a lock, bordering on best in world who gets around the paddock almost like a loose forward and does a ton of the hard graft. One of 2 Bok players that I would like to see in an AB jersey or in a team that plays a more attacking style which the Boks played close to.
polyboy wash yr mouth out ...perish the thought of any Neanderthol bok playing for the Mighty All Blacks ,the greatest team on the planet...
...we all know Bismark is'nt the best hooker in the world either...that would be boklogshits mother...
Boklogic
Please - this was meant to be a rugby discussion - I know Brycy is a special case where funny comments reign supreme or at least he thinks they are funny - but lets get back and keep this to rugby.
In the meantime one thread I looked at - the one about Jake White - turned out to be so vicious I was disgusted by it. This is not a site which is to be used as a malicious forum for hatred expression and the NZ members were disgusting and disparaging every decent South African - extremely bad form on the part of most of them.
Be it as it may - lets return to the rugby issue involved here. Yes - the best and most popular Springboks are indeed Etzebeth - by far the best lock in the world - and Habana - the scourge of New Zealand when it comes to rugby - the best wing in the world. The most respected player is De Villiers - the best captain in the world - a decent and honest person and player.
Cleancut
What is wrong with you - got out of bed in a bad temper? What was wrong in what I said above?
I had to get the comments about the White thread over with - the comments reflecting badly on all South Africans by some of the NZ members and it disgusted me.
What is wrong about what I said about Etzebeth, Habana and De Villiers?
Look - I know for some reason or another you started making nasty remarks about me - and I hope we can change for the better on both sides. Lets get this over with and start respecting each others viewpoints, even in cases where we differ.
I rate Etzebeth and Bismarck (if only he could control his aggression).
I agree that JDV sets a good example as a sportsman. He is a credit to the game. Wee Willie Le Roux is exciting but would never make the ABs. Not sure Habana would either.
Sasue
One of the responsibilities of a lock is line-out ball recovery - a real weakness in the case of Retallick. He is a lock with a serious deficiency in the relevant regard and cannot be rated in the same category as Etzebeth and Whitelock.
Insofar as Etzebeth is concerned he is streets ahead of your best lock - Whitelock. Neither of the other locks mentioned by you would ever be considered for Springbok selection.
