Kiwis Feeling the PRESSURE...

Well nice to be back in the winners circle after a decades of shocking rugby in Oz.

Early impression is the newer generation (<25yos) of aussie players have dropped the spoilt brat attitude which has apparently shifted East over the tasman...

The kiwis are eating themselves up at the moment the Nth v Sth, polcitically correct attitudes of aeorotoa (or whatever) is starting to harm them big time.

The reality is the FACT that the kiwis have lost 3 in a row @ HOME is unprecedented... 

I offer this reason - too many self-centred self-obsessed players in their 15... gone are the days of the feigned (or real) humilty of Kieren Read and McCaw... now its all about look how good i am... with a few exceptions.

Was great to see Argies get up under super coach Cheika - he finally has a forward pack to go with his physical brand of rugby...

Big nod though to RAylene for the recruitment of Aussie's favourite new son all the way from Cook Islands - the one and only Dave Rennie - hes brought back to Oz rugby their flair and running rugby which has been absent for decades.

Now... to win the bledisloe and make those kiwis really suffer.... lol  

I see you are still offering little of any value to the site Pedsman.

The Bledisloe Cup is tarnished now, not having shifted from its pride of place (and home) in the last 20 plus years......

Ha ha redsman, trying to stir the pot, is that what's causing the smell  ABs will get themselves sorted. Right now they have to blend different coaching styles with the traditional kiwi style of rugby so it will have its ups and downs.

Funny what happens when some people get a waft of wind up their ass

Enjoy your short lived gloat Redsman....it's just a matter of time before the ABs get back to normal.

hahaha the rugby wheels are turning again in Oz wont be long till a few more NRL defectors return and really showcase what running rugby is about.

as for the poor ol kiwis... lol... always ha ppens when you go too many north islanders... you can tell Foster not running the show there nor Kane - but I'll let you guys work out that one.

To be fair the kiwis have always embraced the 'respect' thing - I sense there is ZERO respect amongst the boys for coaching stuff, fans and each other...

Im sure crusaders coach will eventually get the nod - and fix the balance of nth / sth island players... until then happy to gloat everytime the kiwis lose yet another home game... lol and lol 

The kiwis have no excuse, Just Win ... so lets not fabricate any. 

There is an easy fix to this and you know it.

Your boys are mentally soft and need to toughen up. It comes down to leadership or the lack thereof. 

They lose their composure easily and go into full blown panic mode when under a little pressure.

Apart from the obvious selection issues, you have a clueless coach and a weak captain who cannot rally the troops. You need to get rid of both.  

One of the things I admired the most over the years about the All Blacks was the attitude they brought onto the pitch. It was tangible. 

A steely determination ... self belief and a belief in the man next to you ... a will to win .., going to war as one ... the never say die approach.

You could see the passion and the pride in them from the moment they did the Haka. Now they go through the motions just to get it over with.

Where is the passion? 

Watch Nonu do the Haka and tell me if you see the difference. 

 The All Blacks under Read and McCaw had this in spades.

These boys are pitiful in comparison and it all starts with your coach.

Word has it that this is the worst coached All Black side in half a centaury.

It really is a shame to see the mighty All Blacks like this.

It's bad for rugby and I wish you guys would sort it out already.

"You could see the passion and the pride in them from the moment they did the Haka. Now they go through the motions just to get it over with.

Where is the passion? 

Watch Nonu do the Haka and tell me if you see the difference"

Very interesting indee d that you mention this CC

I mentioned the exact same thing to my mate 2 weeks ago when watching the Haka

Glad we have a thread talking about the All Blacks, they are in a slump while they get themselves sorted. As for the passion, this alone won't get them back to their winning ways. There seems to be confusion in terms of strategy and if you combine this with passion you'll have the headless chicken syndrome. Passion and clarity will return before the RWC, no worries there.

The Boks have resorted to there kick and chase strategy combined with forward dominance. Meanwhile the backs finally show some spark but you guys are ignoring that as you are unable to change gears. So, both teams are underperforming right now. The future looks bright for rugby!

They got some issues... who the fuck do they play in the midfield? Goodhue is a bit injury prone but is their best 13. Ioane is a better winger and doesn't read defence very well at 13. Not much punch in the line so Havili they are stuck with. Not sure what other options. It isn't all Fozzi. 

They should play BB at 12...too good to leave him on the bench.

Can't Draad... too little muscle in the entire midfield. Havili is too important because of that. They'd get fucked up proper if they have BB at 12 and he hasn't been playing good anyway. 

Ja...ja...I know, but HTH can he suddenly be so poor?...he was a real thorn in the Bok side over the last few years...WTF happened?

@DB do you mean Jordi @ 12, he's played there for the Canes.

AB's have the problem of so much talent, not enough positions so let's stick Will Jordan on the wing and Ioane at 13 but we have to keep Jordi on the park for his boot and need to find a place for Beaudy while Sevu carries tackle shields and Perofeta gets 30 seconds. 

Hell of a headache to have.

BB @ 12 ...he needs to play, but ATM he sucks @10...

BB at 12 would be a quick end to his career, lol He's too small for that position, the outside backs are monsters these days.  

Clearly the Boks don't feel "PRESSURE" they seem to shrug off loses, are they just focusing on the RWC? How many fans are falling for that one?

ALB is by far the best ABs centre and can play at 12 or 13.

Unfortunately he won't be available until the end of year tour,  but you can bet he'll be straight back in as a starter then.

Hopefully Havili and Ioane will be kicked onto the subs bench (or wing for Ioane) on that tour and ALB can partner up with Goodhue.

"BB at 12 would be a quick end to his career, lol He's too small for that position, the outside backs are monsters these days."

He and Farrell are more or less the same size anf Farrel seems to be coping on defence....

Just Win ... we'd rather talk about the struggling All Blacks than the Goats because you guys still have hope of recovery.

We're a lost cause.

There's no coming back from this. 

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@JW, that will be some shift from Retallick. 1st lifter and 2nd jumper simultaneously.

There is no coming back from this opines the daft wee cc. Has to be one of the dumbest comments ever. 

Now we hear that the abs are not showing the same passion when performing the hahahahaka. We let's be reasonable oaks, how would you as a sane adult like to be forced to perform such an absurd act, eyes rolling, tongue hanging out like a dog, slut throats etc etc. Sheer buffoonery.

Of course the wee abs are not getting so much favored reffeeing recently as well. They have a soft pack and a backline that doesn't click.

Can they come back or are they like wee cc says of the Boks, they can never come back. 

I expect the abs to come back at some point. As long as refs do their job properly this will prove more difficult.

As for the Boks the genius coach  Rassie is desperately needed. Our greatest talent must be involved with the Boks.

I see Rosie Searlevus still babblingvawaybin the board. What a complete loon. He makes ou sharktwit look good!

Dense denise of course shows what a traitor he is supporting the wee abs rather than the country who has the misfortune to host him Australia.

Good to see Redsman back adding sanity to the board. Just win could learn a lot from Redsmen if he paid attention. 

slut throats 

Dense you slimy old toad when are you going to hop accross the ditch and foist yourself upon the unfortunate kiwis. 

Doubtless you will then start supporting Oz. It's the nature of the Beast. Hahahahaha. 

slut throats 

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I see wee Beeno has emerged like a mole from his hole to issue his "pronouncements" surely someone on this site will read them. One must remain optimistic

Well lets hope the All Blacks don't panic like they did last week.

They could end up with yet another loss on home soil.

Gooooooooooo Argentina.

Weather conditions are supposed to be wet and cold. We will see who that favors, certainly not great for "running rugby" but the ABs were more dominant in the scrums and (until the 50 minute mark) the line outs. Pumas dominated the breakdown. I pick the ABs to win by 6.

I can't see anything but headless chook rugby unfortunately, hope like hell I am wrong.

Cane should have been dropped, not a captains arsehole.

As a Crusaders man through and through its hard to say but thank fuck Taylor is gone but not sure Coles offers anything more but no time to bring in anyone new so he had limited choice.

Rettalick I am not sure will add anything as he is half the player he was.

I blame fozzie and the NZRFU for the position we are in.

Surely Sam, Retallick and some of the other old timers will try and keep things calm but if they are behind in the last quarter and the weather conditions are bad it will favor the Pumas style from the last game, i.e. just play defense and wait for the penalties. We may indeed see some headless chookery, lol. If the ABs start winning the break down (surely they've addressed that issue this week) then the ABs will be fine.

You have more faith than me, I wasn't convinced we turned the corner against the Boks and I have been proven right for once.

All I can hope is the argies shot their bolt last week and don't front this time. If we do lose I hope fozzie is man enough to admit he is not up to the job

Kiwis having so much talent? Nah. We know they don't have replacements for Carter, Nonu, Smith. Kiddies don't want to play sports anymore and participation is decreasing. Little economy can't put the cash out so the only way is dooooooooooooowwwwnnnn... splat! 

I agree, if we lose Fozzie should quit, at that point we will having nothing to lose.

JW never lose hope with the AB's they will be back but hopefully not soon.

The Springboks have had many poor seasons since 1992 with a few important wins in 1995, 2007 and 2019.

But mostly they have been playing a boring type of rugby with fans accepting a few wins along the way since TRANSforMATION (was enforced by the government) with selections having to meet the colour code requirements in  SA rugby selections.

Sure the Springboks have been fortunate to have selected some players of colour that excelled and the present side is an example of a few excellent such players.

But we have also had to endure many sub standard selections along this path as well with matching results on the field.

Never give up.

Hopefully when we next meet on the  RUGBY field both teams will have regained their form and a great game will be enjoyed by one and all.

We have the talent and a good crop coming through but as long as the current coaches and NZRFU  twats are in place we will continue to under perform.

2007 to 2015 we were stacked with once in a lifetime players so it was inevitable we would fall back into the pack but with the right set up we should reclaim our rightful place as the best team in the world.

Which is more than can be said for the train wreck that SA is 

(Go on bite at that one hahahaha)

Bite on that one huh? Oh sader you keep shooting your ass off. The fuck do I care what the Blocks do... they've been shit most of the past thirty years... they've been shit for about 8 years... they'll be shit for many more years. Your excuses and ramblings are sounding a lot like the bullshit I hear from the Block fans. It ain't so great what you've got... and it's not going so well now is it??? It's not all Fozzie Beat now is it? 

most important is the attitude you take onto the pitch. 

if thats on par, you guys will win ... if not we'll have a repeat of past weekend.

CC, you're losing your fucking edge her boy. This ain't a fucking Rocky movie... all that emotional bravado bullshit doesn't work in reality if you don't have your shit together. Sounding like the other yarpies now... shit! 

THAT was a much better Haka.