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Lambie Retiring

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n00shNewbie10 posts
18 Jan 2019, 09:30
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18 Jan 2019, 09:30#1

source: https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/head-knocks-force-lambie-to-retire/


Pat Lambie being forced to retire after getting too many concussions. Sad news without a doubt, is it a loss for the Boks? 


IMO wildly unfulfilled talent, and victim of the utility player curse (like brent russel) and sad he only got 56 test caps

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
18 Jan 2019, 09:37
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18 Jan 2019, 09:37#2
Yes, it's a sad end to what could have been a great career that was largely unfulfilled.
Concussions will end a lot more careers but I think anyone who's suffered multiple concussions is doing the right thing by retiring.  
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
18 Jan 2019, 10:49
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18 Jan 2019, 10:49#3
“Concussions will end a lot more careers but I think anyone who's suffered multiple concussions is doing the right thing by retiring. ” Correct. You don’t play around with that. But sportsmen don’t always listen. They will always try and push it. Petr Chech, Arsenal goalie, is probably the only football player playing with a rugby scrum cap. He was warned, years ago, that one more kick to the head could see the end of him. Krynauw Otto chose the correct route. He pulled out immediately when the doctors told him to do so.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
18 Jan 2019, 12:00
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18 Jan 2019, 12:00#4

Would life be so much easier if we all pulled out when we were supposed to?

...like good Catholics.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,252 posts
18 Jan 2019, 12:27
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18 Jan 2019, 12:27#5
Someone needs to moer CJ Stander, as he caused the first concussion with a late and dubious tackle
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Jan 2019, 13:12
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18 Jan 2019, 13:12#6

Pity about this - but wise on the part of Pat Lambie.   He is a wonderful person and deserve our  support in whatever the future holds for him and his family.  .  

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
18 Jan 2019, 14:45
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18 Jan 2019, 14:45#7
Never a good thing to hear a player is forced to retire for something like this. It must be said though, that even prior to the head injuries, he never really lived up to what was expected of him. I hope only good things for him going forward. By all accounts, a stand up fellow. 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Jan 2019, 16:25
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18 Jan 2019, 16:25#8
Very gutsy player....I remember his first test at 10 against the ABs where they ran every big forward at him, and he brought them down like nine pins with low head-on tackles Another player who never really found his position, which was probably as a Halfpenny style fullback.
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n00shNewbie10 posts
21 Jan 2019, 12:34
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21 Jan 2019, 12:34#9

over the weekend the debate came up, about whether he will be missed or not for the Boks. a lot of opinions that he was widely average in the green and gold. thoughts everyone? 

either way, still sad how his career ended :-/

BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
21 Jan 2019, 13:25
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21 Jan 2019, 13:25#10
N00sh, you need to get your posts up to at least 5 or someone will land up voting you off the site. All new posters are treated with some suspicion when they first arrive. To prove you are real please get the number of posts up, so the option to vote you off for being a fake poster or bot is no longer available.  
**Edited this post, so many spelling errors (even for me) that I looked retarded. 
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,252 posts
21 Jan 2019, 16:37
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21 Jan 2019, 16:37#11

His finest moments were handing of Schalk to win the Currie Cup, and the long-distance kick that beat the All Blacks. 

Started well, but Meyer turned him into a clone of Morne Steyn. Never very good at getting his backline running. Made more impact on attack at fullback, or even at 12. 





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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jan 2019, 19:27
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21 Jan 2019, 19:27#12

Any flyhalf coached by Meyer and Ludeke will inevitably self- destruct.

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
22 Jan 2019, 08:22
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22 Jan 2019, 08:22#13

... a natural talent at 10 that we see so little of in SA these days.

The man is just too damn fragile.

 

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n00shNewbie10 posts
22 Jan 2019, 10:10
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22 Jan 2019, 10:10#14

@bluebok: thanks for the advice, will start commenting a lot more  

@clevermike, that's quite a statement. any reason you say that? 

funny how for such a long period SA didn't have a dearth of good #10s and now we do so much so that we fiddle around with their positions etc. Lambie was decent at fullback without a doubt but should have had a handle on the #10 role and kept going 

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n00shNewbie10 posts
22 Jan 2019, 10:15
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22 Jan 2019, 10:15#15

duplicate post -deleted-

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
22 Jan 2019, 11:41
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22 Jan 2019, 11:41#16

Yes ... I agree.

He was a wonderful 10 ... and as quite spoken as he was, a great leader.

Sad to lose him .

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jan 2019, 17:15
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22 Jan 2019, 17:15#17
He was actually a better fullback. Lambie had no defined style as a 10. Pollard attacks the game line at pace.....Jantjies is an offloader.....Morne was a distributor and a tactical kicker. Lambie felt the need to play ball in hand, but had no defined model...not a great runner or passer, he got more confused as the game progressed. He would have been better served to model himself on Morne. At fullback he was well balanced and inserted himself into the line effectively. As I said above, a Halfpenny equivalent.
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
22 Jan 2019, 20:18
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22 Jan 2019, 20:18#18

Lambie played flat and attacked the game line aggressively ... had a good pass, especially in contact ... was defensively sound ... a good tactical kicker when it called for it ... and had a lot of courage.

Morne kicked most of the balls he received away ... probably because he stood too deep and found that his midfield were within kicking distance of him. Tactical kicker? He was accurate enough for the posts but when it came to tactical kicking in general, he was wayward ... as we saw against the Ozzies.

Distributor ... ?? That's a joke, right?

Another poor quality of his was his fe ar of contact. He came off the field many a time without a single scuff to his short.

I don't think Morne is the type of 10 that anyone should model himself on ... haaaahahahahahahaaaaa!!

Pollard has found a little form. I hope his tendency to panic under pressure doesn't return.    

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jan 2019, 23:44
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22 Jan 2019, 23:44#19
Oh sure Pollard who nailed every kick to the poles in a WC semi against the ABs, panics under pressure. Lambie as a Bok flyhalf starter....7 wins/6 losses.....including losses to Italy and Japan Morne as a Bok flyhalf starter....32 wins/17 losses. Normally these one player records aren't convincing, but the number10 has so much to do with winning, Morne's dominance of Lambie is stunning....and his win ratio of 65% is higher than the average of coaches he played for....Lambie is way below that average and he was the pilot against Japan. Case closed.
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
23 Jan 2019, 07:47
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23 Jan 2019, 07:47#20

Sadly, as talented as Lambie is, one cannot expect him to win matches on his own, especially when the fist receiver off 9 is a forward, cutting him out altogether. 

It's a team sport after all ... and with the poor selections that Meyer brought onto the park ... his absurd "game plan" ... and the inability to still a mutinous crew ... losing those matches was inevitable ... including the fiasco against Japan. 

That lies squarely at the feet of Meyer and his cowardly nature.

Don't blame Lambie for the incompetence of Meyer.

Morne Steyn was about as poor a 10 as one could get. He managed to lose a test to the Ozzies all on his own, by fluffing a simple touch kick . That's now the same man you referred to as a brilliant tactical kicker.

Haaaaaaaahahahaha ... Lambie never managed that feat.  


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Jan 2019, 16:57
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23 Jan 2019, 16:57#21
No facts, no argument.....just an assertion...Lambie's win ratio is 10% lower than the Springboks over the same period. And tellingly he was the the pivot when we lost to Japan and Italy.......those are facts.
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
23 Jan 2019, 17:09
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23 Jan 2019, 17:09#22

"the the pivot", huh?

Haaaaaaaaahahahahahaaa!!!

Not to worry, I understand.

You are trying you best.



MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Jan 2019, 17:27
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23 Jan 2019, 17:27#23
Bothersome I agree, but better than missing the can ..did the old man make it today? Waaaaaaahahahaha!
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