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Laureus Award for Siya Kolisi

Started by Augenöffner11 REPLIES1,390 VIEWS· 01 Aug 2018, 16:48
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
01 Aug 2018, 16:48
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01 Aug 2018, 16:48#1

He hasn't been a bad ambassador as captain, but he has been nothing special as a player in my opinion. It just feels a lot like when Barry S was given a Nobel Prize for essentially, being black. Your thoughts? 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
01 Aug 2018, 16:51
#2
01 Aug 2018, 16:51#2
I thought he played very well last year- at least in most games. For both the Stormers and also for the Boks. He has been average so far this year- but still solid. He should have been given the Bok captaincy last year on the basis of his SuperRugby form.

He along with many of his teammates need to ask Marx how to compete at the ruck. At this stage, Kolisi is a 6.5 because he is half a 7, and half a 6. (not big enough for a 7, and not enough fetching for a 6). On a bad day, he is at sixes and sevens....
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
01 Aug 2018, 16:54
#3
01 Aug 2018, 16:54#3

I find he struggles massively in physical tests. He doesn't inspire much confidence in me in important tests. Not a technically flawed player, but limited. I do like a hooker as a captain. 

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
01 Aug 2018, 17:12
#4
01 Aug 2018, 17:12#4

Kolisi has been appointed the poster boy for rugby transformation. It's all a lot of window dressing, of course, but you can't blame the player for that. So good on him. At least he is a decent player, if limited, as Lurker says.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Aug 2018, 18:47
#5
01 Aug 2018, 18:47#5
What was the award for exactly....I recall Schalk got this award after his come back from a near death experience.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Aug 2018, 18:57
#6
01 Aug 2018, 18:57#6
Just read the article...it was an Award on the Month. I think this is fine insofar as it goes, if you really believe it was harder for him to be Bok captain than it was for any another guy. Possibly that's true if your starting point is his childhood, but not from the time he played senior rugby. I might have voted for this guy who was also a candidate: 'WHEELBARROWING EVEREST – Scott Doolan reaches Base Camp on Mount Everest with little assistance despite paralysis from the waist down'
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BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
01 Aug 2018, 23:28
#7
01 Aug 2018, 23:28#7

Kolisi won this mysterious award in July 2018 and the nominations were (each month only 4 nominees are presented):

FAREWELL TO INIESTA – Andrés Iniesta bids farewell to FC Barcelona after 22 years at the club. The Spanish football legend also announced his retirement from international football.

SHANE WARNE JUNIOR – Seven-year-old Eli Mikal Khan is inspired by his cricketing hero Shane Warne

THE HEART OF MANCHESTER – Nathan Rae runs a heart-shaped route around Manchester to honour victims of Arena bomb attack                                                       

UNITING THE RAINBOW NATION – Siya Kolisi makes history by becoming first black captain to lead the Springboks in a Test match

His skill as a rugby player was not under consideration and given the other nominees, I would probably also have voted for Kolisi.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
01 Aug 2018, 23:55
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01 Aug 2018, 23:55#8

How does being black captain united South Africa when the purpose is to make an anti-white political statement? This world is sickening. 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Aug 2018, 10:40
#9
02 Aug 2018, 10:40#9

I like the guy but hate the politics of it all. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Aug 2018, 14:11
#10
02 Aug 2018, 14:11#10
Agreed, he seems like a decent bloke.....but he is a weakness against top teams. To be a Springbok flank at his size he needs to be a fetcher and a great open field defender....he is neither. His long suit is ball carrying....but not in traffic, in space where his speed is an asset. Against really good defences flanks are rarely in space.
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
02 Aug 2018, 14:20
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02 Aug 2018, 14:20#11

I suppose Coetzee thought he could use Kolisi in a wide alignment. However he isn't strong enough to hold the ball up like a Strauss. That's how I think he got into Coetzee's team. Watching your Boks captain get run over easily is very disheartening. The Boks are an emotional team, as South Africans are emotionally people. They need a leader who exudes power and can stir them up. Marx is the best player in world rugby, and he fits the bill for me. I really like a hooker as captain as well. 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Aug 2018, 16:38
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02 Aug 2018, 16:38#12

People were saying that Kwagga should be used as an impact player. 

For me Kolisi fits the impact role quite nicely but isn't a starter. Running at tired defences in a bit of space seems to be his strength. He does have good hands and is more skilful all round than many of our first choice loosies. But Rassie wash;t even giving him a full game against England9what was that about...purely rotational?)

Not skill full enough to fully compensate fir his size though. Kwagga barely is. 

I'm happy to give him the benefit of the doubt from a big picture perspective but am gutted for Whitely who hasn't put a foot wrong while at the same time wrecking his body to get where he wants to be and honestly is probably the most deserving of the job.

Heard via via that Whiteley's body is train wreck at present and his list of breaks and tears is apparently seriously long...going all the way back to school days.

Duane is a tricky one since it's hard to guess how many 100% or even 75% games he can string together at this point.  

Pollard's not a bad shout .

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