SASaffolk
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03 Jan 2025, 20:27#3
Wessels at loosehead
Hanro Jacobs at 3
JF v Heerden at 4, he is regularly starting for the Bulls and is looking better and better and is only 19
Manu Tsituka at 8 with Hanekom at 6
Jurenzo Julius is a simple must at 13
Jordan Hendrikse at 15
SASaffolk
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06 Jan 2025, 12:35#5
Yeah Wessels is definitely an option at 2 but if we were picking a young side I’d play him at 1 as Andre Hugo Venter is a really good hooker
SASaffolk
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06 Jan 2025, 15:01#7
Dweba has been the starting hooker at the Stormers of late but is now injured
I’m a big fan of his - power house
Wessels is a good ball playing prop/hooker
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06 Jan 2025, 15:29#8
With 2 tests against Italy and one against Georgia I’d definitely use those games to identify the players for the future and give them a run.
Against Italy I’d select:
15. Fassi 14. Moodie 13. Julius 12. Willemse 11. Arendse 10. Sacha 9. Williams 1. Ox 2. Dweba 3. Wilco Louw 4. RG Snyman 5. Ruben v Heerden 6. Hanekom 7. Elrigh Louw 8. Roos
16. AH Venter 17. Steenkamp 18. Thomas du Toit 19. Ruan Vermaak 20. Manu Tsituka 21. Jayden Hendrikse 22. Jordan Hendrikse 23. Ethan Hooker
Second test vs Italy:
15. Jordan Hendrikse 14. Edwil vd Merwe 13. Moodie 12. Ethan Hooker 11. Tyrone Green 10. Libbok 9. Papier 1. Steenkamp 2. AH Venter 3. Thomas du Toit 4. Jenkins 5. Cobus Wiese 6. Buthelezi 7. Vincent Tsituka 8. Manu Tsituka
16. Grobelaar 17. Wessels 18. Sadie 19. Moerat 20. BJ Dixon 21. Nohamba 22. Masuku 23. David Kriel
Against Georgia:
15. Jordan Hendrikse 14. Tambwe 13. Henco v Wyk 12. David Kriel 11. Zas 10. Masuku 9. vd Bergh 1. Wessels 2. Grobelaar 3. Hanro Jacobs 4. Andre Smith 5. JF v Heerden 6. Gumede 7. Ludwig 8. Morabe
16. Dweba 17. Mchunu 18. Frans Klopper 19. Rahl 20. Ruan Venter 21. Jantjies 22. Sacha 23. Rickus Pretorious
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06 Jan 2025, 16:28#13
I think Manie would be overkill for those games.
Why waste that powerful shoulder of his on minnows?
...indeed, why reveal the secrets of his magical goal kicking in nothing games.
While on tour, Manie's wife asked him if he misses her.
"Of course I miss you darling. Don't you know I miss everything?"
SASaffolk
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06 Jan 2025, 16:35#14
Fuck me rugby ignorance runs rife
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06 Jan 2025, 20:25#17
Bullshit it’s all about finding the next batch of Boks given the age of our current Boks
Tests at home against Italy and Georgia is the perfect opportunity to do that as the opportunity to play weaker sides before the next WC are few and far between
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06 Jan 2025, 21:29#18
What is the point of playing them against poor teams?
Do you learn more about a player in a game like that than you do in a URC game against good opposition.
No you don't.
You are better off playing your regular side against poor opposition, giving them the opportunity to refine their synergy. Minnow games are great opportunities for practice and basically worthless for seeing if players are test quality.
From simply watching URC it's very clear who the players are that should step up to the Boks. In fact, it's abundantly clear.
So you give those players opportunities, playing alongside regular Boks, in games that aren't walkovers. And you phase them into regular positions over two/three years. It's not rocket science.
You learn a big fat 0 from picking a random bunch against minnows.
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
06 Jan 2025, 21:51#19
You learn less having your regular side put 50 points over the minnows
Give me my sides playing the minnows all day long
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06 Jan 2025, 22:52#21
Disagree - given the position we find ourselves in we should be using the 3 tests to play the newbies and from that select the best candidates to mix in with the established players moving forward
In particular we need to be looking at locks and centres as this is an area where we have failed to introduce youngsters
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06 Jan 2025, 23:37#23
That’s what makes him a rugby genius - you just never know with him
Thank fuck we have one of if not the best coach to ever coach the game
Three WC’s in a row will never be matched ever again
Hail Rassie you beaut
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07 Jan 2025, 06:25#27
Ever surprised a mouse in the kitchen and it gets such a fright that it crashes into everything as it runs away.
...that's Denise for ya.
07 Jan 2025, 06:44#29
It’s always good to include more youngsters where ever you can.
But picking a few of the older more experienced ones to guide them, makes sense as well.
Erasmus will certainly carry on with picking his team based around a experienced Core.
He certainly will not underestimate Italy or Georgia.
07 Jan 2025, 08:30#31
KC how about Ruben V Heerden at 5. Cameron at 6 and Franke Horn at 8. Marcel Theunissen can also play 8.
Another good lock is Adri Smith from the stormers. Another possibility for Blindside flank is Cobus Wiese
I would play David Kriel at 12 and possibly Quan Horn at Fullback. He is a useful player.
Wessels would be good at LH prop and what about Swampie S at TH? He is strong in the scrums.
Two underrated but talented Flyhalf,s, Jurie Mathee and Kade Wolhuter.
07 Jan 2025, 14:22#36
The secret lies in this specific group of players that fit very well together…..tight group of hardebaard Manne.
Rassie,s Motivational /Coaching strengths also play a role.
The boks winning culture has become a habit it seems.
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07 Jan 2025, 20:52#38
All the more reason to play the rookies against the minnows
Perfect opportunity to see what the rookies have to offer over 3 tests
Maybe I was wrong in including Fassi, Arendse, Moodie, Willemse, Libbok, Williams, Ox, Steenkamp, Wilco, Thomas and RG they all have nothing more to prove - they belong.
So over three tests, I’d go with the following:
Fullbacks: Jordan Hendrikse, David Kriel
Wings: Edwil vd Merwe, Green, Tambwe, Zas
Centres: Hooker, Jurenzo Julius, Henco v Wyk, David Kriel, Rickus Pretorious
Flyhalves: Sacha, Masuku, Jordan Hendrikse
Scrumhalves: Hendrikse, Papier, Nohamba, vd Bergh
Props: Wessels, Mchunu, Sadie, Jacobs, Klopper
Hookers: Dweba, AH Venter, Grobelaar
Locks: Moerat, Ruben v Heerden, Ruan Vermaak, Cobus Wiese, Jenkins, JF v Heerden, Rahl, Andre Smith
Loosies: Buthelezi, Theunissen, BJ Dixon, Ludwig, Ruan Venter, Vincent Tsituka, Elrigh Louw, Hanekom, Roos, Manu Tsituka, Gumede, Morabe
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08 Jan 2025, 06:19#40
Dave, again...
What is the point of playing a random newbie against crap opposition.
What do you learn?