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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
07 Jun 2016, 09:13
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07 Jun 2016, 09:13#1
If training formations are anything to go by then the Springbok starting XV for the 1st test against Ireland will look like this:

15 Willie le Roux, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Lionel Mapoe, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Pat Lambie, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Siya Kolisi, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Adriaan Strauss (captain), 1 Tendai Mtawarira

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Jun 2016, 09:20
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07 Jun 2016, 09:20#2
 I saw that. Very disappointed if Kriel does not start ahead of Louw and Combrink ahead of Mvovo.
Good to hear PSDT is running well
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
07 Jun 2016, 09:24
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07 Jun 2016, 09:24#3
 

I don't like the new Bok trui  ...... looks like a yellow pages advert








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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jun 2016, 10:22
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07 Jun 2016, 10:22#4
 My problem with that team is the slow-motion loosies and the fact that because of pace deficiency they are totally absent from ball protection and recovery - while th eir passing game is basically non-existent.  Mvovo  on the wing  is a joke too.  Mvovo is dead average and Combrinck is a much better wing option. 
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
07 Jun 2016, 11:08
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07 Jun 2016, 11:08#5
 See ... I told you.
Your hoping for some sanity when it comes to team selections ... it's not going to happen, Mike. 
8 of that possible starting 15 do not belong there. I'm sure there's at least another 4 or 5 on the bench that could be added to the list as well.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
07 Jun 2016, 11:44
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07 Jun 2016, 11:44#6
Lwazi Mvovo is nowhere near as bad as many people try to make out. Not saying he's better than Ruan Combrinck who I have always rated but in the context of quota selections, he's close enough in quality to Combrinck to warrant his inclusion.

If I was faced with the choices Allister Coetzee has to make then I would have picked Mvovo in place of the non-tackling showpony Willie le Roux and played one of Pietersen, Combrinck or Mvovo at fullback.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Jun 2016, 12:42
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07 Jun 2016, 12:42#7
 Movov is not a bad wing but Combrink is better.
Kolisi before Kriel is rediculous. I had hoped for a loose trio of Kriel, Whitely and Vermulen (7). We need to start playing intelligent attacking rugby as in days of old.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Jun 2016, 13:03
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07 Jun 2016, 13:03#8

I don't mind Mvovo, but there are many that are better.


I was disappointed to see how easily he was hauled in this year. I just don't think he is a good investment aged 30 and clearly not as quick as he used to be.


Combrink has been twice the player and more than anyone deserves a starting spot


But I hear you regarding the fucking politics


No excuse for Jaco Kriel not to start ahead of average Louw

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Jun 2016, 13:06
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07 Jun 2016, 13:06#9
 Louw is at least a hard working bruiser. Kolisi is a show pony who does didly squat and disappears in big games.
Wake up snapster your ignorance is showing!
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Jun 2016, 13:22
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07 Jun 2016, 13:22#10
Kolisi is twice the player Louw is.....been in great from for the Stormers unlike Louw who has been awol for Bath  
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
08 Jun 2016, 10:03
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08 Jun 2016, 10:03#11
 Kolisi is as average as they come. 
He doesn't deserve his spot in the squad and he knows it.
The only time he "shines" is when he plays against chumps. He disappears completely when pitted against any decent team.
A club player at best ... no more.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Jun 2016, 10:18
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08 Jun 2016, 10:18#12
 CC - I agree with you about Kolisi - his two ball carries against the Cheetahs were the only positives this normal Stormers bench player did this year.   As a loosie the guy is club level - nothing more - the epitome of the BEE selection .   In fact I prefer Notshe to him as a loosie.   
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Jun 2016, 22:04
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08 Jun 2016, 22:04#13
Mvovo is another player I outed 5 years ago....only to be met with huge resistance. And now everybody is against him. Funny stuff. It was obvious this little guy doesn't have the bottle for test rugby.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Jun 2016, 22:12
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08 Jun 2016, 22:12#14
 Couldn't agree more on Mvovo Moz, we have better, "target players" included. Experience is a good thing, but sometimes XP shows where not to bother.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Jun 2016, 11:02
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09 Jun 2016, 11:02#15

Moz, 5 years ago he was a 25 year old.......living in the shadows of JP and Habana, which was a given. He was a good back-up


He is now 30 and no longer as quick......there are better youngsters.....its not his time  

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