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Lions tour: TJ Perenara and Nathan Harris push for All Blacks starting spots; Rugby Stuff

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
07 Jun 2017, 01:22
#1
07 Jun 2017, 01:22#1

OPINION: In the end we may wonder what all the fuss was about.

 

When the All Blacks name their 33-man squad on Thursday it will be made up of the players who have served them well previously. Why would it be any other way?

 

It is hard to remember a year in which so many All Blacks were in such good form in Super Rugby. Barely any will need the prodding and cajoling of the All Blacks coaches to get the best out of them. The Super Rugby franchises have done a magnificent job.

 

The Chiefs' Nathan Harris is a big man the All Blacks selectors have shown a lot of faith in.

Jordie Barrett is likely to be the headline. It's a wonderful choice. Conservative selectors such as myself may have got cold feet and held him back in favour of another forward but this current lot aren't that way inclined.

Probably, Warren Gatland would not have picked Jordie, as he didn't pick George Ford, Finn Russell or Garry Ringrose. But Steve Hansen and co are sending out a clear message - yes you'll likely be even better in six months' time but you're also good enough now.

So the attention now turns to the starting XV.

Injury-permitting it largely picks itself but there are two positions that may come down to the wire - hooker and halfback.

TJ Perenara is flying. He is the form No 9 in the country and his running game, defence and short kicking game is better than that of Aaron Smith.

 

 

The Highlander's form has been good but regardless of how the British and Irish Lions fare against the Blues on Wednesday evening they will target the All Blacks around the fringes with the strong running games of both Rhys Webb and Conor Murray.

 

The biggest mistake New Zealand could make is to take the performance of Scotland halfback Greig Laidlaw against the NZ Provincial Barbarians and assume that has set the tone for Lions halfback play for the rest of the tour.

 

It won't. Murray and Webb will challenge the All Blacks' defence closer in and Perenara is the best equipped to cope with it.

 

Yet Smith has one factor in his favour. If the All Blacks are planning to kick a lot and put up a high number of contestable kicks then he remains the man.

 

It is a huge part of his game, and it is also an area where Perenara has a slight weakness. For the Hurricane it's not so much an accuracy issue but the length of time he takes to get the ball from hand to foot. There's a slight delay there and that can give charge-down opportunities.

 

The Hurricanes just don't kick anywhere near as much as the Highlanders and the All Blacks selection at No 9 may come down to what style they want to play. Still, Perenara's form has been enough to make me waver. Earlier in the season Smith was still a fairly obvious choice but Perenara is challenging that thinking.

 

At hooker, the consensus pick seems to be Codie Taylor but that overlooks Nathan Harris.

 

The All Blacks have been quite clear in the past about the pecking order at hooker. When Dane Coles has been fit, he's the No 1, but when Harris has been fit he has been the second choice.

 

Taylor's form has been good for the Crusaders this year but I suspect of the three fit hookers now available for the All Blacks, Harris and Liam Coltman are strongest scrummagers.

 

Quietly, Harris has made a strong return at the Chiefs from his serious knee injury. He has improved their scrum and is getting around the field well.

 

His additional bulk appeals in an area we know the Lions will target. He would be my choice for the earlier exchanges.

 

 - Stuff.co.nz

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
07 Jun 2017, 01:36
#2
07 Jun 2017, 01:36#2
 TJ has been on fire, the game against the Force and he's been making a case for starting for some time.
Will also be interested to see if Hansen picks McKenzie for the squad. Mid-field will be another interesting area, then there is the 7 jersey. Cane will get it IMO and Ardie will be on the bench.
3K
3ku1Pro2,580 posts
07 Jun 2017, 06:55
#3
07 Jun 2017, 06:55#3
Ardie should be the starting 7. But I think they still see him as an impact player. If no Read. They could go Ardie at 8 and have Squire or Dixon, or Luatua at 6.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
07 Jun 2017, 09:58
#4
07 Jun 2017, 09:58#4
 
A little noekie on the side and Aaron Smith falls completely out of favour.??

Probably one of the top three scrummies in the world and he's no longer assured of the 9 jersey?

Talk ab out being petty. 



PA
PapamoaClub Pro683 posts
07 Jun 2017, 13:57
#5
07 Jun 2017, 13:57#5
 TJ will be the starting No 9 A Smith isn't at TJ's level anymore. J Barrett will get a call up he's far to good to leave out. Ardie Savea is great off the bench, he'll cause carnage during the Lions tour. Shields is another workhorse. Jordie Taufua from the Crusaders is in wicked form and has to be considered. Matt Todd, Luatua is another player performing well, Cane is going well but hasn't been that impressive compared to the Crusaders loose combo.Codie Taylor has to be our in form hooker at the moment, Coles will be way off the pace now and the way Taylor's been playing Coles will need to do something pretty impressive to get back into form.
Hurricanes Aso and Laumape have to get a call up into the squad, if they don't then NZ rugby is f**ked in the head these guys are kicking a$$ everywhere and earned a position even in the wider training squad. 
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
07 Jun 2017, 15:40
#6
07 Jun 2017, 15:40#6
 
I too rate Laumape as a must. He's impressed me from the first time I saw him.

Could never figure out why Crotty featured so many times when you had a boy like that sitting on the side lines.

 
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
07 Jun 2017, 16:41
#7
07 Jun 2017, 16:41#7
 
I've never rated Crotty as test material.

He's solid enough but nothing special.

To me he'll always just be a good SR player.




sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,259 posts
07 Jun 2017, 16:55
#8
07 Jun 2017, 16:55#8
Aaron Smith has his long pass from the toilet area, but it's just not reliable enough. 
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