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Lomp joins JJ and Taute in oblivion

Started by Mozart13 REPLIES513 VIEWS· 25 Sept 2014, 16:45
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Sept 2014, 16:45
#1
25 Sept 2014, 16:45#1

Bakkies, Victor, Jean and Habana soldier on. Why is that? Could it be  because HM despises young players? Nope....he gave them their chance in the first place.

 

 

Could it be because Taute lost a test to NZ by missing Dagg horribly in no space....that JJ made four fatal mistakes in our loss to NZ last year, including a miss on Barrett....and that Lomp gave away our last chance of beating NZ by being bundled into touch two weeks back.

 

Yep I think we have found the highest common factor....all these guys have gone into oblivion because they have made crucial errors which blew an AB test. And as we can see from Taute and JJ, they don't return from oblivion. I guess that's why they call it oblivion....hahaha.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Sept 2014, 17:11
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25 Sept 2014, 17:11#2

Bwhaaahaaa one would swear old Meyer was getting it right with his selections.

 

Moffie feel free to beat your chest over selections like Taute, JJ and Lood when Meyer gets is right and starts beating Oz and NZ with he likes of washed up has beens like Matfield, Jean and Bakkies on board.

 

Wake up old man......the choices of Meyer are hardly a reflection of the credibility of any players......the only time we can take Meyers selections seriously is when he produces results

 

Keep banging the old mans drum

 

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
25 Sept 2014, 17:22
#3
25 Sept 2014, 17:22#3
 Loodvoet had his last OK'ish game against Scotland. He was nowhere against Argentina and cost us a try through laziness against Arg.

Perhaps fatigued, perhaps betraying inexperience in just his fourth Test, de Jager (dark green circle) expects the Pumas to come around the corner and over-chases towards the open-side of the ruck. For less than a second, South Africa do not have a guard in place on the blind-side.

As you can see from the screenshot, his shoulders are pointing in precisely the opposite direction to Cubelli’s opportunistic gaze – a stark contrast to the coiled body position at the ruck in the first three minutes when Landajo was on. Unfortunately, an exceptionally aware scrum-half punishes the concentration lapse.





Clearly, du Plessis has called de Jager across but must turn his hips in as Cubelli embarks on his rapid outside arc. Paused here, we see how dangerous the situation has become. de Jager is struggling to recover, du Plessis’s weight is on his heels and Cubelli has a decent-sized gap to aim for.



Both S pringboks do manage to scramble back. Even so, they can only meet Cubelli with relatively weak arms rather than planting their feet and dropping a shoulder. Cubelli does show impressive strength to get through and stay upright (past Willie Le Roux), but the chance is created primarily by speed of thought – and South Africa’s consequent indecision.

Read more at http://www.rugbyworld.com/news/blogs/play-like-pichot-argentinas-scrum-halves-analysed/#cSG8R776xqjts0fq.99
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Sept 2014, 17:36
#4
25 Sept 2014, 17:36#4
I'm not " beating my chest" Destompie. Is that what you do when you think you are right, beat your chest? Are there any sound effects?  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Sept 2014, 17:40
#5
25 Sept 2014, 17:40#5
Vlag, nice exposition. This guy Lomp  has received huge unthinking support based on one run against small Scottish chaps. Willemse looks like a very powerful big man with some real aggression. Lomp I'm afraid is about as aggressive as another Dave favorite.....Pierre Suspies.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Sept 2014, 18:04
#6
25 Sept 2014, 18:04#6

Clearly both Lood and Bismark miss the 9......but of course you useless pricks lay the blame squarely on Lood......much like Moffies lies about JJ's four misses against NZ which is the biggest load of crap I have read in years and is nothing short of a blatant bloody lies.

 

Just look at the Barrett miss, good old Jean and Morne are absolved of guilt because Moffie rates them as players.........how bloody childish.

 

So Taute gets stepped by Dagg beautifully with plenty of work to be done before the AB's score with plenty of time in the test left after that try......but hey ho Taute cost us the test.

 

Moffie do you really think rugby followers are that stupid to believe all this crap of yours.......the common equation is that you don't like these players and you fabricate rubbish to try make your point only to be exposed as a liar in the process.

 

As pathetic as Meyer is, I somehow don't believe he would be pathetic enough to discard Lood over being pushed out to touch in the dying minutes of the game you stupid old man

 

 

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
25 Sept 2014, 18:19
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25 Sept 2014, 18:19#7
 Loodvoet was the one who created the gap in the first place. There is a reason why the writer suggested the possibility that he could have been tired as well.

He pointed out, elsewhere in the article, that in the opening stages of the game, Loodvoet was much more alert in defence around the rucks. He mentioned the change in posture as well.

"Perhaps fatigued, perhaps betraying inexperience in just his fourth Test, de Jager (dark green circle) expects the Pumas to come around the corner and over-chases towards the open-side of the ruck. For less than a second, South Africa do not have a guard in place on the blind-side.

As you can see from the screenshot, his shoulders are pointing in precisely the opposite direction to Cubelli’s opportunistic gazea stark contrast to the coiled body position at the ruck in the first three minutes when Landajo was on."

This is an image from the opining minutes when De Jager was much more alert and energetic. Notice his body position and his focus on what is going on and compare that with his lazy and lacklustre appearance only 6 minutes into the second half. Klaar moeg geploeg.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Sept 2014, 19:17
#8
25 Sept 2014, 19:17#8
Established vs  new Boks ....the endless debate. Naive buggers like Dave, Mike and to some extent Cheezer and Jerome buy their talent by the lb. Any newbie who is an athlete and shows in lesser competition is automatically the player HM should select.
But HM is responsible for results. He knows the chances are these guys will fail. No more than a quarter of them last more than three tests.
Whereas with the established Boks he knows they have the mental software and nous to be successful. The task becomes much simpler, all he has to do is measure is if they are physically still up to it. That can be tested in training camp and no doubt is tested.
The recipe....keep your established Boks  that still have it. Introduce the newbies that have the talent and haven't shown fatal flaws at S15 level. But act quickly on players like Mvovo, Taute, Goosen, JJ, Malherbe and Lomp who fail from the outset. They very rarely get better. The new greats announce themselves from day one.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Sept 2014, 19:51
#9
25 Sept 2014, 19:51#9

Yeah Moffie and we keep losing to the AB's and now Oz and you want to tell us you and Meyer have it right investing in a bunch of geriatrics......until you have results to back up your theory of old timers, I suggest you shut the f up, for you keep making a fool of yourself aligning with the aged......I know its close to your heart but we are talking rugby here not chess

 

The Boks side is average because we have far too many geriatrics involved - FACT

 

And the next 2 Saturdays will prove that, as would a test against England right now

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Sept 2014, 20:19
#10
25 Sept 2014, 20:19#10
Actually  we won both games against OZ last year. You are an uninformed moron arent you?  But let me make a suggestion. If you want to debate like a semi educated person use logic, examples and numbers. Stop relying on your discredited "fact" to bolster your puny arguments.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Sept 2014, 20:23
#11
25 Sept 2014, 20:23#11
   Mozart the sa\me goes for you - you have no facts on your side and come up with one-e yed bullshit all the time.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Sept 2014, 20:28
#12
25 Sept 2014, 20:28#12
The only moron on here is you old man.......last I checked we lost to Oz this year and beat Oz twice last year because the side was better with the likes of JJ in it and no site of useless geriatrics like Matfield and co........you get the picture old man?  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Sept 2014, 20:29
#13
25 Sept 2014, 20:29#13
Says the guy who couldnt even remember what he said and called me a liar when I quoted him exactly . One would think you would have the decency to shut up for a while. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Sept 2014, 20:50
#14
25 Sept 2014, 20:50#14
Mozart  
One would think you would show less stupidity in future.  Rest covered under an apprpriate new thread.  
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