It feels like the Argetina vs All Blacks match will almost go unnoticed this weekend, but since South Africa has struggled to beat the Argies at home and coming very close to losing. I really hope that the the Pumas can create an ups et.
Looking for a Upset
Are you being cocky or what, never underestimate the underdogs; remember what England did to ya last year, its not that long ago.
I doubt it will happen. Of course it's possible. Typical kiwis arrogance!!!
Personally I'd rather see the Wallabies beaten by the Pumas.
That would make my day.
Oh yes and of course if the Bulls lose to the Griquas tomorrow I would be tempted to doing the lambada all weekend. Especially if they then face the Pumas in a relegation match later ... and lose.
Aaaaaaaaaah yes .... the thought of it alll, delights my soul.
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My problem is rather a possible upset by the Aussies over the Springboks. Unlike others who only watch parts of games - and watch what they want to see - I watch whole games.
Let me explain. Before the issue of the yellow card and penalty try in the Soweto test - there was not much difference between the Springboks and Argentina in the Soweto test. That incident was followed by a brilliant kick by Willie le Roux - which led to the Engelbrecht try. Being playing with 14 men virtually the full second half - the Springboks went for the kill and the result was a runaway victory.
In the case of the match in Mendoza the situation was turned around and we were bloody lucky to win that match being outscored by two tries to one. We struggled throughout the match and was not at all convincing.
In the case of the Brisbane test - the match could have gone either way - up to about 15 minutes before the end of play when the try of De Villiers got scored. That was followed by two more tries as a result of the brilliance of Le Roux. OK it was a convincing win - but the collapse of the Aussies late in the game was clear.
What will happen in the test tomorrow. If the Wallabies can stay in touch or managed to go clear of the Springboks - like the Pumas did in Mendoza - there might be an upset. That is really what worries me. I still predict a Springbok win - but by a narrow margin. Am a bit worried about the issue though.
Now for the All Black game. I think they should win with ease - but they are going to have to outplay the Argentine forwards. They can do that by taking the ball wide all the time. I cannot see how there could be a upset in this case. Last year the Pumas did give the All Blacks some problems in the first match - but the All Blacks won the subsequent test in Argentina with ease and got a bonus point of the game as well - so I suspect much more of the same tomorrow .
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September 27, 2013, 15:08:24 Speaking of underdogs, Australia must fancy their chances this weekend. History has shown that Australia are more than capable of beating the Boks at home.
No shit?
Boks v Aus in SA. Won 31, lost 10. Win ratio 75.6%.
Since re-admission in 1992, Aus only beat SA at Newlands once in 1992.
Ceradyne
History means nothing in matches - it is what happens on the field of play that s affecting match outcomes.
I merely posted the correct historical facts. I never made any deduction about the outcome of the game on Saturday.
Don't underestimate the Argies at home. The must know how pap the abs are - surely!
Please brother bueno don't compare us to the hapless bok team that almost lost in Argentina if not for the sympathetic kiwi ref that saved their bacon.
The Argentinians literally feasted on you and face it, Etzabeth should have been carded for a dangerous tackle.
It would'nt have been the first time that Argentina had beaten you though.
Such an undisciplined side you have and then you cry about losing players. Funny az.
Same goes for the SA vs Wallabies. Going by there previous outing. The Wallabies are very poor and going backwards. Almost as bad as the pumas. SA should tear the Wallabies apart with a record loss more than anything. If that doesn't happen I'd be surprised.
The record loss of the Wallabies against the Springboks was in 1997 when the Springboks beat them 63-22. However, they had a real coach then - now they have a dud selector - so there are no chance of a record win. If the Springboks win - the winning margin is likely to be small - I give them a 70% chance of winning by between 5 and 10 points
Even though the Wallabies is a poor team this year - the Springboks have some really deficient combinations and that is why I for one is not over-optimistic about tomorrow.
Very possible...in fact in La Plata is a different story.
Incidentally rugby history overlooks conveniently the technicality between the Jaquars (a combined S American side) and the Pumas, not taking into consideration that other countries...ie Uruguay and Chile contributed sweet fanny adams...when the following history was made :
During the second South America tour in 1982 South America won the second of the two internationals in Bloemfontein, with Porta scoring all of the 21 points in the victory.] Argentina also defeated Australia 18-3 in Brisbane at Ballymore in 1983. Another South American tour took place in 1984. Argentina also defeated France 24-16 in June 1985. Following a 20-33 loss to the All Blacks that October, the famous 21-21 draw happened on 2 November, aginst the All Blacks.
the only possible upset this weekend is the wallabies beating the Boks, which while unlikely, is still more probable then the pumas beating the All Blacks.
never forget that in the professional era the All Blacks have beaten 'everybody' in their own backyard more times then they have lost and that includes the Boks,
Unfortunately for the SA supporters NZ don't screw around. They would love nothing more than deal to the Argys gain a massive advantage ahead of the BOk and create a near impossible chance for SA to win a RC trophy. Then head to SA and collect another bonus point victory before a clean sweep NH tour.
Game on, SA will have to get 4 tries and win by at least 8. SA had done it before at Ellis park but it is a massive task


