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Looks like the. tractor needs a decoke and valve grind...

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05 Sept 2016, 20:42
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05 Sept 2016, 20:42#1
According to SA rugby mag the tractor may be sitting out the start of the Oz test along with his partner in mediocrity Mapoe:

Allister Coetzee could take another gamble by selecting the untried centre combination of Juan de Jongh and Jesse Kriel, writes JON CARDINELLI.

When Coetzee announced his squad ahead of the Rugby Championship last month, there were some concerns about the lack of depth in certain backline positions. The Bok coach named only one specialist fullback in Johan Goosen, and only one specialist No 12 in Damian de Allende.

In one sense, the Boks are fortunate that both players have come through the two matches against Argentina unscathed. In another, they have a problem in that crucial No 12 position, with De Allende still battling for form.

According to Netwerk24, Coetzee is set to make two changes in the centres ahead of the Boks' must-win clash with the Wallabies this Saturday. Juan de Jongh is expected to replace De Allende, while Jesse Kriel could get the nod ahead of Lionel Mapoe. The two ran in midfield at a training session in Brisbane on Monday.

De Allende and Mapoe have failed to impress in the Bok midfield over the past five games. Of course, their impotence on attack and struggles on defence can be linked to the inconsistency of the forwards.

Over the past five matches, Coetzee has also opted to back two inexperienced Test players in Faf de Klerk and Elton Jantjies at scrumhalf and flyhalf respectively. The backline as a whole has lacked experience.

Nevertheless, it appears as if De Jongh and Kriel will be backed to provide the Boks with some impetus in the next match against the Wallabies. Coetzee will announce his team on Wednesday evening. De Jongh and Kriel could start their first Test as a midfield combination on Saturday.

De Jongh made his Test debut at No 12 against Wales in 2010. Over the subsequent years, however, it's been clear through his performances at Super Rugby and Test levels that his talents are best utilised at No 13.

Kriel played a utility role for the Bulls in 2015. Then Bok coach Heyneke Meyer subsequently declared that the youngster's future was at No 13.

Earlier this year, however, Coetzee said that Kriel may well provide the Boks with an exciting fullback alternative. Now it seems as if Coetzee is set to revisit the option of Kriel starting at No 13.

De Jongh and Kriel will be under pressure to settle from the outset on Saturday. The backline as a whole may lack synergy as a result of the changes.

With wing Ruan Combrinck ruled out for the remainder of the Rugby Championship, Coetzee will be forced to make a further backline change. Netwerk24 reports that Francois Hougaard and Lwazi Mvovo alternated on the right wing on Monday.

Hougaard hasn't played wing for the Boks since 2012. He played eight Tests at scrumhalf in 2014. The match against Wales in Cardiff on 29 November 2014 was his last for the Boks.

Mvovo last featured for the Boks in the second Test against Ireland in June. He was dropped after a poor aerial and kicking performance.

Photo: Gabriel Rossi/Gallo Images

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05 Sept 2016, 20:47
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05 Sept 2016, 20:47#2
And to add to the general sense of complete direction loss, back comes the Lion of Japan, Jesse Kriel.  
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05 Sept 2016, 21:15
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05 Sept 2016, 21:15#3
This is starting to sound like a Saffex team- just change anyone position to get them on the field. 
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05 Sept 2016, 21:28
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05 Sept 2016, 21:28#4
You think? I'm sure the Sapp had this all covered in one of his lists.
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05 Sept 2016, 23:22
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05 Sept 2016, 23:22#5
The revolving Delande is out of sorts. Although wee Dejong as a test 12 is not likely to go well.. 
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05 Sept 2016, 23:56
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05 Sept 2016, 23:56#6
 Agreed de Jongh is a 13. So now we have Goosen, a 10 supposedly, at 15. A 15 Kriel at 13, a 13, de Jongh at 12 and a sevens player,  Kriel  being touted for 6.
This collapse of the Bok team is even more chaotic than I thought.
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06 Sept 2016, 01:15
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06 Sept 2016, 01:15#7
 I'm sure Mr Stick's making a valuable contribution to the Bok backline strategies .
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06 Sept 2016, 03:07
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06 Sept 2016, 03:07#8
 The collapse of Mozart's brain capacity is even more chaotic than I thought.   That is typified by him supporting the useless AWOL specialist De Jongh.   And I suppose he wants the 2014 Perth debacle -  Morne Steyn - in the test too.  But then we have a dud coach in charge after hoping that we would not have two dud in a row in that position,  
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06 Sept 2016, 14:53
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06 Sept 2016, 14:53#9
 The 2015 Boks would crush this newbie team....told you so.....bwaaaahahaha.
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06 Sept 2016, 21:14
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06 Sept 2016, 21:14#10
 

 Mozart makes  wild statements without regards to facts and then claims he is correct.  The latest one is that Meyer’s team would eat the present team and I decided to look at some results to test that  delusional statement0statement,   

Ireland

SA  played  Ireland  on  8  November 2014.   Ireland  won the game   29  -  15

The winning margin of Ireland was  a clear indication that the SA Team was comprehensively outplayed  by the Irish in all components of the game.

Subsequently there were three tests  this year  with the following results L

11 June 2016     -      Ireland  won the game         26  -   20

 18 June 2016    -      South Africa won the test    32  -   26

25 June 2016    -      South Africa won the test    19  -   13

Realistic  evaluation indicates that the games this year was unlike the 2014 test closely contested with a clear indication that the SA Team  against Ireland  this year was more competitive as against the 2014 fiasco where they were not competitive. 

Argentina

There  were three tests  in 2015 between the two countries,    From an evaluation perspective it iss difficult to really give credit  based on the last two tests  played  the   Argentinians selected a “B” team for two of the tests  -  which from their perspective was not of any real importance – so the best way is to compare the Super Rugby tests  only.   The result of those were as:-

8 August 2015   -    Argentina won the game     37 – 26

17  August  2015  -  South Africa won the game  30 – 23

24 August 2015   -    Argentina won the game     26 – 24

The game this year were competitive  - the game last year was not so.

Japan

One must never forget the disgraceful performance of the Springboks against the Japanese last year.

SO MOZART COMPARE APPLES WITH APPLES AND THEN MAKES A STATEMENT  BASED ON PREJUDICE  AND RANK IDIOCY,   YOU CAN BWAAAAHAHAHA AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE -  IT ONLY CONFIRMS THAT YOU ARE INDEED AN IDIOT,

 

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06 Sept 2016, 23:08
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06 Sept 2016, 23:08#11
Tokkie you plank,  only you can conclude losing against Ireland at home is equivalent to losing against Ireland in Ireland....which by the way happened in 2014, a year we beat the All Blacks....good luck with doing that this year.

And only you can pump up yourself and conclude that a 50% record against the Bargies in 2016 is better than a 67% record against the Bargies in 2015. 
 Stop the b.s. You have the new team you wanted live with it Domkop.
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06 Sept 2016, 23:12
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06 Sept 2016, 23:12#12
 Decoking and a valve grind ? Sounds like my old clapped out RD 350 Yammie from when I were a lad . Doubt if the poor wee Boks could zap along as speedily these days ,
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06 Sept 2016, 23:13
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06 Sept 2016, 23:13#13
 Blast from the past hey!
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06 Sept 2016, 23:16
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06 Sept 2016, 23:16#14
 Indeed Moz ,man those things were fast ,the boks are more like those old Bulldog tractor engines that needed a blowtorch to get them going  !I see a tweet alongside this thread from Habana about which Bok can eat the most cup-cakes .At that rate they might need more than tearing down and decoking.

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06 Sept 2016, 23:29
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06 Sept 2016, 23:29#15
This post has self destructed....no need to encourage the skunks.
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06 Sept 2016, 23:48
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06 Sept 2016, 23:48#16
 Any woman who can tear down an engine while looking the business is worth the weight eh ? My old man would make me decoke my old Yammie while he did the valve grind every year .Made a huge difference to performance .The Kwaka KH500 I had very briefly was even more techy and definitely the scariest machine I have ever ridden .Handled like a housebrick with shopping trolley wheels and a Saturn V rocket engine attached ,first time I took it out for a blatt the front wheel came off the tarmac in 3rd or 4th !I miss those ring-a-ding engines ,sadly they arent green enough these days and here you have to make them comply with noise emission laws .I have been looking at a mid-life crisis bike but seem to be getting a bit of push-back from the old lady .Something about having torn collar bones screwed down or something.....
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07 Sept 2016, 00:54
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07 Sept 2016, 00:54#17
 Times are changing ....... cup-cake competitions ?  Mostert as well, twitting a love note about how much he's missing his missus . Jissus .

My heart remains with the QuotaBokke but I'll be backing the Wobblies at the bookies .
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07 Sept 2016, 01:31
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07 Sept 2016, 01:31#18
 Buy yourself an old Kawasaki ZX 11....still scary fast. The  modern Suzuki GSXR 1000s were so vicious even 10 years ago, it was hard to give full gas in first gear.
I gave up the bikes a while back when some guy in a BMW almost ran me into the concrete divider. If I hit that thing I would have flown into the oncoming traffic. It's not what you do, it's the nut who shares the road with you.
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07 Sept 2016, 01:51
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07 Sept 2016, 01:51#19
 Plank the Mozart idiot cannot read - the Argentinians played two tests against the Springboks what can at best be described as their "B" team in tests that were of only practice interest to them,   To beat their B-team is great with you - but in the game itself it Is  meaningless as an evaluation basis,   What must hurt you badly is that the Springboks performed so poorly in 2014 and 2015 and now you moan about the present scenario endlessly because the duds you supported so slavishly is not around to weaken the team.   Get a life.  Remember the Japan disaster by the :most experienced team the Springboks ever fielded"   Most of your favourites should NEVER have been in the squad in 2014,  
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07 Sept 2016, 01:51
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 Plank the Mozart idiot cannot read - the Argentinians played two tests against the Springboks what can at best be described as their "B" team in tests that were of only practice interest to them,   To beat their B-team is great with you - but in the game itself it Is  meaningless as an evaluation basis,   What must hurt you badly is that the Springboks performed so poorly in 2014 and 2015 and now you moan about the present scenario endlessly because the duds you supported so slavishly is not around to weaken the team.   Get a life.  Remember the Japan disaster by the :most experienced team the Springboks ever fielded"   Most of your favourites should NEVER have been in the squad in 2014,  
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07 Sept 2016, 02:04
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07 Sept 2016, 02:04#21
 My favourite bike was the first production model of the Suzy GS 1000 with the wire spoked wheels ,the first Japanese bike to combine a bullet proof powerful engine with excellent handling .It was like being in love having that machine in my hands for the first time ! But I really lusted after the Z1R when it first appeared but didnt want to sell the GS1000 and couldnt afford 2 bikes .Now I have the means but not too sure about the ability !Had a long hard look at a Kwaka MachIII  earlier this year but it needed too much work for the limited time available to me .My idiot brother-in-law bought my XS 1100 from me back in the 80s and managed to write it off after a whole 6 days of ownership .I copped crap off my ex and her family for selling it to the pratt  .As his cheque had already cleared I really didnt give a sh!t .Mr Blobby as we both know theres nothing wrong with loving yer old lady but jeezum crow why the need to let the entire world in on yer private man feelins ?Soon we will be seeing them sharing there decoration ideas and how best to use your left over cup-cakes and why real men can now eat quiche hehehehe.....Moz slow witted car drivers have ever been the riders bane eh ?I gave the bikes up to get something more "practical ' for my new family as so many do .My grand-dad used to come a courtin"  me Nanna on his Indian scout ,when they got hitched up he added a side car until he had more than a 7s team to cart about ! 
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07 Sept 2016, 02:12
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07 Sept 2016, 02:12#22
I liked the last air cooled GSXR 1000......a beast of an engine, with huge low down torque. The water cooled replacement was faster, but not as interesting.
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07 Sept 2016, 03:23
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07 Sept 2016, 03:23#23
My first bike was a tricycle. It had blue rails with a black seat
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07 Sept 2016, 08:01
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07 Sept 2016, 08:01#24
 So when are you trading it in Mr Sharkbok ? The book value will have levelled out now that you have had it a year or two .
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07 Sept 2016, 08:23
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07 Sept 2016, 08:23#25
 Had me a Honda CB 1100 RC back in the day.
Took me and a mate of mine all of 13 minutes to get from the Boksburg Hypermarket to Sunnyside Pretoria. 
I have fond memories of that bike. 



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07 Sept 2016, 09:18
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07 Sept 2016, 09:18#26
 Wardad, you're bringing back happy memories for me too!Started in '71 with a Yammie DT1 250 trail bike which White's Yamaha in Hamilton assured me was suitable for moto-X. Well it wasn't......Flicked that on early '83 for the brand new 2nd version of the good old RD 350 which I nearly killed myself on 2 weeks after delivery! My right knee hasn't ever got over it!The RD never quite ran as well after that prang so I traded it later that year for a Mach IV H2 750. What a machine! Unlike the 500 it didn't have that vicious power band around 5500-6000 revs (similar to the RD350). If you weren't hanging on at the start you were gone!!Unfortunately one too many hoar frosts and drenchings between Hamilton and Tokoroa'(where I was working at the time) in the winter of '74 saw me sell that beauty.Remember the extra damper those Kwakas needed on the front steering so they would handle properly? Without that it would wobble at 90mph and the front wheel lift at 100mph! Happy days but sadly I haven't owned a bike since.
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07 Sept 2016, 10:23
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07 Sept 2016, 10:23#27
 Bought my first 2 bikes from Tokoroa in the mid 70s ,a Honda CB-175 and a Yammie TX-750 twin .They had a Vincent Black Shadow me old man was going to buy for 1500 bucks but he bought another big Yankie V-8 instead ! Mate of mine raced that old RD-350 in a few d-class races with  me ,we nearly finished one too ! That wicked H2-750 copped some undeserved flak for things like the brakes etc which were on a par with their contemporaries and compared to its little brother was quite civilised .....almost .CC that Honda was a sweet ride ,always wanted the original CB 1000 six cylinder beastie ,sounded like a low flying fighter jet !
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07 Sept 2016, 10:39
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07 Sept 2016, 10:39#28
You people are going to think I am mad, but my first bike was a '98 Honda CBR 900! I had ridden other bikes before, but basically, I learned to ride on a superbike! I was petrified of the bike at first, but I got over it quickly enough. I have had a multitude of other bikes since then, but the four Fireblade's, the 900 and then three more and more recent 1000's, have been my favourites. I currently ride an on/off machine, but once you have tasted the performance of a superbike, not much else can satisfy. 
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07 Sept 2016, 11:42
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07 Sept 2016, 11:42#29
 BB thats an awesome first ride !But like my old man told me when I bought my first big bike they generally have better brakes ,handling etc .After all theres not much difference between a 750 and a 1000cc bike apart from bore and stroke .
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