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M?ori All Blacks team VS Allblack White Team

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sharkbokCaptain23,301 posts
13 Sept 2012, 05:43
#1
13 Sept 2012, 05:43#1

 If the Allblacks can choose an all M?ori to tour the world, what is stopping an Allwhite allblacks team being chosen? ----

 

M?ori All Blacks team From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia     Not to be confused with New Zealand M?ori rugby league team. This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed(August 2009) This article includes a list of references, but its sources remain unclear because it has insufficient inline citations. Please help toimprove this article by introducing more precise citations. (November 2011) M?ori All Blacks Union New Zealand Rugby Union Coach(es)  Jamie Joseph Captain(s) Liam Messam             Team kit           Change kit First international  Ireland 4 – 13  New Zealand M?ori(as the New Zealand Natives)
(1 December 1888) Largest win  United States 6 – 74  New Zealand M?ori
(7 June 2006) Largest defeat  New Zealand M?ori 6 – 31 Australia 
(23 September 1936) Maori Touring Team, 1888, which toured the UK in and played 74 matches in 25 weeks; beat Ireland, lost to England and Wales

New Zealand M?ori is a rugby union team that traditionally plays teams touring New Zealand. A prerequisite for playing in this team is that the player is to have M?ori whakapapa or genealogy. In the past this rule was not strictly applied. In the past non-M?ori players who looked M?ori were often selected in the team.[citation needed] These included a few Island players and a couple of African descent. Today all players have their ancestry or whakapapa verified before selection in the team. On 1 June 2012 the team's name was changed to M?ori All Blacks.[1]

Although the rugby union team does not compete in the World Cup, it competed in the Churchill Cup, which it won in 2004 and 2006, and the Pacific Nations Cup which it won in 2008.

In November 2012, the team will play three games in the UK.

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[edit]History

The M?oris playing the Saxons in 2007

In 1888–89, the 'New Zealand Natives' were the first overseas team to tour the Home Nations. At first the team was meant to comprise only M?ori, but four "whites" were finally included to strengthen the combination. Before leaving New Zealand the team played nine matches for seven wins and two losses; and two matches (one won, one drawn) at Melbourne on the way to Europe. Once in the UK, they played three or four times a week for a total of 74 games for 49 wins, five drawn games, and 20 losses. Ireland were beaten (13–4) in Dublin, but Wales won (5–0) in Swansea, and England won (7–0) at Blackheath. They won 14 games on their return to Australia and seven of the eight played in New Zealand.

One of the New Zealand Natives' greatest legacies was the haka, a traditional M?ori posture dance with vigorous movements and stamping of the feet, to the accompaniment of rhythmically shouted words; this was first performed during a match on 3 October against Surrey. The haka was later adopted by the New Zealand national team, the All Blacks, as were their black shirts (previous New Zealand sides had worn navy blue).

Since being given official status in 1910, the New Zealand M?ori have produced some of world rugby union's most outstanding athletes, including fullback George Nepia who played 46 games for the All Blacks from 1924–30, halfback Sid Going who played 86 matches for his country and former All Blacks captain Tane Norton, who represented New Zealand in 61 games, including 27 tests, and later became President of the New Zealand Rugby Union.

The 1926–27 touring side, captained by Walter Barclay MM, is considered the best ever M?ori team. In a seven-month tour which took place in Australia, Ceylon, France, Wales and Canada, the side played 38 matches, winning 29, losing seven and drawing two. Full-back George Nepia was left at home after missing the boat from Wellington.

In October and November 1982 the M?ori made a seven-match tour to Wales under the captaincy ofPaul Quinn, winning three of their games. They lost 19-25 to the Welsh national team.[2]

In 2001, the M?ori first performed the "Timatanga" haka, which describes the evolution of life and the creation of New Zealand from the four winds.

The team lost only four of its 26 games played between 1994 and 2004, including beating England,ArgentinaScotland and Fiji. The M?ori continued their winning form in 2004 beating England A (now known as England Saxons) in extra time in the final of the Churchill Cup in Canada.

In 2005 the M?ori beat the British and Irish Lions for the first time in an official match. Their preparations for this match forced them to withdraw from the 2005 Churchill Cup. They returned to that competition in 2006, defeating Ireland A and the USA in pool play in Santa Clara, California and Scotland A in the final in Edmonton, Alberta.

In August 2012, NZRU announced the M?ori All Blacks would play three matches in the United Kingdom, including an international fixture against Canada. Jamie Joseph is couch with assistance from Daryl Gibson.[3]

Matt Te Pou is the longest serving New Zealand Maori coach.[citation needed]

[edit]Pacific Nations Cup

Main article: Pacific Nations Cup

The Pacific Nations Cup is an international rugby union competition held between six Pacific rim sides; Fiji, Japan, Western SamoaTongaAustralia A and New Zealand M?ori. The Junior All Blacks (New Zealand's second XVs, not an underage team) used to compete in it.

New Zealand Maori also replaced the Junior All Blacks in the 2008 Cup, where they were undefeated champions, narrowly beating Australia A in the final game of the tournament. The team did not compete in the 2008 Churchill Cup.

[edit]Centenary Series

In 2010 to celebrate the Centenary of New Zealand's Maori Rugby team, a special commemorative stamp has been issued by New Zealand Post to pay tribute to the players, coaches, administrators and supporters who have taken New Zealand Maori rugby through the decades, overcoming challenges to emerge stronger and more relevant than ever.[4]

Games Team Points Opponents  New Zealand M?ori 37 - 31  New Zealand Barbarians  New Zealand M?ori 31 - 28  Ireland  New Zealand M?ori 35 - 28  England

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- Although SARFU blocked this team from coming to South African on racialistic grounds!!!

US
UsernamePro1,098 posts
13 Sept 2012, 06:53
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13 Sept 2012, 06:53#2

Though I do agree that it was rather short-sighted and ignorant of SARU to block the team, I also think it's actually incredibly ignorant, hypocritical of these two nations, Australia and New Zealand, to have blocked the old SA and turn a blind eye to the new one. Yes, we hear of this big fight that was fought for equality and justice, yet look at the political ideologies they never speak out against? What of that? Of course, nothing is ever done. Had SANZAR or the IRB, i.e., NZRU, put pressure from the outside, our rugby administration would have had to have been sorted out. As always though, the fight for equality is onesided, and I know why. To guilt-trip the whiteman into going along with the Socialist demolition of their country. It's happening in the USA too, been happening for a long time. The end result will be a happy little Socialist utopia. And people say sport transcends politics, quite the opposite in fact. The men who are supposed to be the eyes and ears, the heads of their communities, as generations gone by, have been sucked into sport, destracted by something so meaningless. The Romans knew that too, keep the sheeple passive and distracted. I could go into more, but in the end I'll just say that this is one reason why my affiliations with sport will be coming to an end.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Sept 2012, 11:00
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13 Sept 2012, 11:00#3

Card sport has a number of benefical attributes if one thinks about it. Because some folk abuse it for whatever reason doesnt mean it cant be enjoyed? Sport is as valid an activity as so many other things. One could say one is manipulated by everyting in one way or the other - eg advertising.

If it werent for sport I would never have had interactions with folk like brycy, hakwa, saSUE, ragtad, muncher, snapster and jallopy!  BAN SPORT - the penny has dropped! Hahahahaha

As for the double standards - well they are appalling - its all one way traffic. Here in the Cape we have being castigated for not getting the demographics right re government postions. We are by far the best run Province in South Africa. What is held up as being the role model in the Limpopo guys. They have thebest record re staff demograhics. However 5 of their provincial departments have been placed under central government management and they have zip service delivery going on.

Zille points out that it is far better to have service delivery taking place rather than a few folk of colour, ill equiped to perform, benefitting from government positions. She is of course totally correct and even the anc is now starting to say merit before affirmative action (racist selections) as service delivery is threatening to cause them to lose support and ultimaltely power and their ability to loot the treasury which is for them them the purpose of governing.

But what criticism is levied at the new racist South Africa - none. Who cares today that mad bob ruins Zimbabwe. Nobody. Here in SA the equalities  are all put down to apartheid. But whites here have a first  world standard of living as all whites do elswhere in the world. Blacks here have  a simalar if not better standard of living as black folk elsewhere in Africa. But its all apartheid's fault that there ar einequalities in South Africa!!!!!! Aparthied was a hinderance but what a warped unblanced diagnosis and a very unhelpful one as it fuels racial animosity.  Bad, bad stuff. If aparthied is the problem explain the problems of the rest of Africa (which is generally worse off )- be assured of one thing it will not be  Africa's fault according to many - it ill be everyone elses fault.

Beeno pleading for realism and balance.

 

 

CA
carpetmuncherPro1,667 posts
13 Sept 2012, 17:25
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13 Sept 2012, 17:25#4

the race card is used to devide and conquer the relevant partys so those in charge can reign over a weakend masses. classic marxism. there will never be a all white team seeing that does not fuel the relevant parties ideals. the usa is seeing a socialist system beeing enforced and they are trying there best to get the second amentment banned because that alone is there biggest hurdle for the ruling elite to overcome. as long as the americans has there guns they have at least a chance.

 

that very few people know is that pre english rule south africa never had apartheid and the wages was decent by the dutch rulers but since the english took control the implemented the apartheid system and the relevant black workers wages was cut to 1/4 of there normal wages. the english were the main culprits of apartheid which was just continued on. this whole affirmitive system is just to delude and implode the country/system just for some investors overseas to get there hands on our resources. the education and other systems and dumped down by design.

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