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Malherbe's shocking defence

Started by Mozart12 REPLIES242 VIEWS· 10 Nov 2013, 02:30
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MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Nov 2013, 02:30
#1
10 Nov 2013, 02:30#1

Supposedly Jannie can't tackle and I have to admit, he is not the best. But how about Malherbe, he missed 5 tackles and only made 5 :

 

PMalherbe0/000/0/210000 5/5

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10/0
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Nov 2013, 02:51
#2
10 Nov 2013, 02:51#2

Mozart

 

Sorry - but I did not see him missing that many tackles.  What I did see and what Mallett said after the game was that Malherbe performed very well and his defence was better than Jannie.  I would rather believe that one coming from Mallet - than your constant shocking nitpicking.   He may have missed five tackles - but none left to any scoring of tries.  

 

There is nothing wrong with Malherbe's main function - namely scrumming - or did you find anyting wrong with it?

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Nov 2013, 02:54
#3
10 Nov 2013, 02:54#3
So OOM the stats that you have been quoting all the time....are now less reliable than Mallett. What an intellectually  dishonest fella you are!  
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Nov 2013, 03:08
#4
10 Nov 2013, 03:08#4

 Mozart

 

Not dishonest - I am not denying that he missed tackles - though I shall have to watch the game again to see where and when it happened.   I quoted what Mallett said after the game - when he said Malherbe had a very good game - that is all.

 

However, what is intellectually dishonest is that you tried desperately to find something  to use to discredit Malherbe - like you normally do with players you dislike.    In other cases you are constantly ignoring the same stats and then openly spread lies about players - so this is nothing new.

 

 

 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Nov 2013, 03:17
#5
10 Nov 2013, 03:17#5
No I didn't try desperately...it was obvious....and supposedly one of the things that would improve with Malherbe vs Jannie. Just tell the truth old Chap  
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
10 Nov 2013, 03:17
#6
10 Nov 2013, 03:17#6
 When I watch the game again, I will observe, however Jannies tackles are usually match loser tackles that lead to tries.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Nov 2013, 03:34
#7
10 Nov 2013, 03:34#7

Mozart

 

When you assess a players performance you have to be HONEST - you look at where he did well and where there are shortcomings.   You have two norms -

 

*  in the case of players you like - you try desperately to find positives and disregard completely any negatives the players have;

 

*  in cases of players you do not favour - you never look at positives and search only for negatives.

 

That is why your opinion on players is such a farce and dishonest to boot.   You let the cat out of the bag though with your latest remark about Jannie.   You will find it hard o accept - but Malherbe is going to replace Jannie sooner rather than later.

 

    

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
10 Nov 2013, 04:02
#8
10 Nov 2013, 04:02#8
 So, ou Maaikie, how honest were you when you saw  Bakkies getting that card for dirty play?
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Nov 2013, 04:06
#9
10 Nov 2013, 04:06#9

No OOM, unlike you I am factual about what happens on the field. For example, I'm not a Flip fan , but I gave him full credit for a good test. Likewise I have always rated Louw, but today I said he wasn't effective. I call what I see, and today I saw nothing that convinces me Malherbe is anointed.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Nov 2013, 04:17
#10
10 Nov 2013, 04:17#10

 Mozart

 

Lets put it plainly  - you see what you want to see and then add fabrications to it.  When the stats said that De Jongh is poor in defence - you ignored it and tried to excuse the missed tackles by saying he is such a strong defender - that is the reason for him missing the tackles.  When the stats say Alberts today carried the ball seven times making in total of 1 Meter in territory gain - he was credited with huge ball carrying by you.  

 

You wanted to see nothing about Malherbe - so you did not see anything.

 

The above is why your rating of players is such a farce - it is based on dishonesty and prejudice -  nothing else.        

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Nov 2013, 08:55
#11
10 Nov 2013, 08:55#11
The farce is all yours OOM. In your case if you were ever right, it would be big news.

XT
XtramickClub Pro103 posts
10 Nov 2013, 14:41
#12
10 Nov 2013, 14:41#12
Mozart you are right Malherbe did miss a lot of tackles. To his defence they werent in open play and in many instances it was a case of over exuberance. Tackling someone who is already half tackled and then missing him. The lad tried to impress and his work rate was a lot higher than jannie's would be in a normal day at the office. This performance doesnt annoint him but with continued exposure he will iron out some of the issues and be a viable option 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
10 Nov 2013, 15:16
#13
10 Nov 2013, 15:16#13
 Rugby 365 rating:
3 Frans Malherbe
Solid debut. Stood up well in the scrums, which was always going to be his primary objective. His touted defence, however, was absent, as the rookie missed several hits.   
7/10


Ratings for all Bok players are on topic:
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