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Mallet gets it spot on

Started by Saffolk 15 REPLIES868 VIEWS· 23 Oct 2023, 09:50
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SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 Oct 2023, 09:50
#1
23 Oct 2023, 09:50#1
He said the bench saved us as the players on the bench are fresher He said our starting pack against England were dead on their feet before the game started as the French game had taken its toll He said Eben went from being the best lock in the world by far against France to playing his worst 40min against England He pretty much said that about our whole starting pack against England He says that if we play like that against NZ in the final they will put 30 points on us He says the players need to rest all week and be honest about their condition for selection It will be tough to make some hard selection calls for the final but we probably need to freshen up the pack by replacing Kitshoff with Ox, RG for Mostert (no a hard call at all) and Wiese for Vermeulen I thought Reinach was awful so Faf has to return at 9 and I’d have Williams on the bench. Pollard has to start and so should Am at 13 Can’t see it happening other than Faf and Pollard starting but it should happen
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,222 posts
23 Oct 2023, 10:14
#2
23 Oct 2023, 10:14#2
The Boks have rotated their players more than any other team in the tournament. 
If they can't play 2 tests on back-to-back weekends, what good are they?

I think it was the conditions more than anything else.
The individual error rate was extremely high - maybe worse than any Bok team in the last 7 years.

England played their best game of the tournament, and they are more familiar with those types of conditions.
Boks got outmuscled and lost the aerial battle, with the last 20 minutes saving them.
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
23 Oct 2023, 10:39
#3
23 Oct 2023, 10:39#3

Mallett and yours truly o n the same page.

Actually it's a no-brainer.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Oct 2023, 11:24
#4
23 Oct 2023, 11:24#4

What ha ve I been telling thew oaks.

Sharkie the starting guys are drained. I do agree though that the conditions favoured England as we are not great wet weather players.

If its raining it will be an advantage to NZ as they are much more accustomed to wet weather.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Oct 2023, 11:26
#5
23 Oct 2023, 11:26#5

Here is what you need to understand oaks. Copied from my post on the Bok selection thread:

Lots of talk about Mostert versus Snyman. So which lock will play 80 minutes oaks. It wont be Snyman. So that leaves Mostert and Eben. We know Mostert can play 80 and he has a big engine. So he could be the guy. Or Eben must play 80. Then you could if you want play Snyman as a starter. You could then have Kleyn on the bench. 

I agree that Mostert lacks some physicality but he is far from being as pap as wee Matfiled the wannabee backline player. He makes a lot of tackles and is good in the lineouts. ONe has to look at what he actually contributes.

Yes of course we miss Lood a very good lock. 

As for the lineouts I saw in the beginning Bongi was throwing to the tail of the lineouts and was adjudged to have thrown in crooked. Its a high risk , high reward strategy. When he changed that the lineouts were fine and I have no concern.

Its nice to see some ignorant oaks you were complaining bitterly about the selection of Deon Fourie and insisting Rassie had no clue in contrast to their vast expertise now realizing what an amazing player this guys is as the very astute Beeno has said for many, many years.

But the oaks miss the big issue. That despite my mentioning it and mallet underlining it. There are certain Boks who have been starting who need to come off the bench for  a shorter 30 minute stint. Everyone noticed the uptick in energy but that was as far as the insight went. Bring Kitshoff, Bongi and Malherbe off the Bench. I back the against anything the abs can bring on.

Start with Eben and Snyman and consider Kleyn as a sub.

Start with Kwagga, Wiese and Du Toit. Bring on Vermeulen. That represents a 5-3 splits or bring on Vermuelen and Van Staden. That is a 6-2 split.

Backs

Reinach has been a big disappoint. Pollard and Faf to start. Bench Grant Williams and Willemse. IF you have a 5-3 split you could add Libok or AM.  Willemse covers Flyhalf, center and fullback. Note Faf can play most of the match. Give Williams 16 minutes against a tiring wee ab defence.

Centers - Allende and Kriel. Am would be a risk, but maybe  a bench option as mentioned above

Wings - Kolbe and Moodie

Fullback Willie.

So oaks this is the master plan and within it the big calls to be made.

The most important call is to start players who have previously been part of the bench. The wee abs will come out doing full on Ballarino rugby. We must have a fresh pack to counter this. Twinkle toes wee Beau Bar rat must be mowed down as must his longer length boet Jordan. 


SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 Oct 2023, 11:54
#6
23 Oct 2023, 11:54#6
We have not rotated players out of the big games The other sides have not had to play Scotland, Ireland, France and England over a period of a month Our players are battle fatigued and one can’t blame them Mallet is spot on
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Oct 2023, 12:08
#7
23 Oct 2023, 12:08#7

Exactly. Yo coulkd also throw in Tonga.

Then prior to the RWC we played the Rugby Championship and Wales and NZ.  I think our build up was driven by the knowledge our opening game was against a good Scottish team. 

We were placed in the worst pool, had worst Quater final. Had the toughest semi final team to face, had a day shorter recovery for the final and could even once a gain have the weather against us.

I wonder if our two bigoted anti Rassie Fakes will say we had an easy ride to the final. Hahahahahahahaha how time has unmasked these two loons!

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,222 posts
23 Oct 2023, 15:52
#8
23 Oct 2023, 15:52#8

The Boks have played one more game than Ireland did.
Ireland started their first-choice team in every test, so their players have been on the field longer.

The opposition is also tired. Springbok forwards play either 50 or 30 minutes a game, on average.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 Oct 2023, 17:13
#9
23 Oct 2023, 17:13#9
Ireland played 3 big games and are out we have played 4 and are still in it the players are battle fatigued because of it
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Oct 2023, 17:32
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23 Oct 2023, 17:32#10

You have to also take into account the matches before the RWC. 


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
23 Oct 2023, 17:37
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23 Oct 2023, 17:37#11
"Ireland started their first-choice team in every test, so their players have been on the field longer."
Yes and where are Ireland now? Back home, that's where.
Rassie was 100% right to rotate against the minnows. He got that much right.
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
24 Oct 2023, 00:23
#12
24 Oct 2023, 00:23#12

The opposition is also tired.

"opposition"?

Happens to be the ABs who as I 've said have had a perfect prep which was rounded off with a practice run against the Argies.

The Boks are physically and mentally drained as any team would be after two energy sapping games in a row....let alone the game against Ireland. It's like a heavyweight boxer going three championships fights in a row.......takes a superhuman effort to lift yourself off the canvas and be physically and mentally charged for the grand finale after what they've been through.

Go Bokke!


PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
24 Oct 2023, 04:04
#13
24 Oct 2023, 04:04#13
So what we're saying is... ... ... ... 7/1 Split makes the most sense.
PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
24 Oct 2023, 06:17
#14
24 Oct 2023, 06:17#14

I'd go with Mallett simply because he is a coach and knows about the demands put on the players by this sort of schedule. I'm clueless in that regard.

DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
24 Oct 2023, 16:17
#15
24 Oct 2023, 16:17#15

I'd say that Mallet is partly right. The likes of Thor, Kolisi, Steph, Kits, Malherbe have not been very spectacular to say the least. It was not merely freshness, but ability and performance. Erasmus has selected very poorly in most positions. 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Oct 2023, 16:34
#16
24 Oct 2023, 16:34#16

and yet miraculously made the final..try again.


BOKKE!!!

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