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Mallet says Venter out-thought allistair

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Oct 2013, 16:23
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27 Oct 2013, 16:23#1

I can only agree

Ex Keo

SuperSport technical analyst and former Springbok coach Nick Mallett lauded Brendan Venter's contribution to the Sharks' Currie Cup win.

Mallett said Venter's hand was obvious in the Sharks' approach and that the departing director of rugby had out-thought his Western Province counterparts in terms of their tactical game-plan and approach.

Mallett said the Sharks' kicking game was superb and that the Sharks had caught out Western Province with the use of the chip kick over a flat-lying defence and that the line speed in defence had caught WP unawares.

He raved about the performance of Pieter-Steph du Toit and the Sharks flankers Willem Alberts and Marcell Coetzee. He also felt the Sharks halfbacks, Charl McLeod and Pat Lambie, and inside centre Frans Steyn were excellent in making maximum use of the forward dominance.

He said Bismarck du Plessis was imposing but again let himself down with ill-discipline and a lack of appreciation of the intricate laws of the game.

Mallett was of the view that WP played the wrong game tactically and were taken out of their comfort zone and failed to adapt. Early pressure had forced the intercept and WP were not a side used to chasing a game. They proved incapable in the final, as did the Sharks in the corresponding fixture a year ago.

Mallett, in the build-up to the final, felt the Sharks were the better team and after the match said the view was vindicated by the performance of the senior players among the Sharks.

He said the Sharks' Springboks pitched up for the final and played with composure and accuracy. But he said the collective forward effort of the winners was overwhelming and rendered any WP individual effort meaningless.

Mallett was critical of the WP leadership on the field, of the coaching staff's failure to change approach during the game and especially of scrumhalf Louis Schreuder's performance. Mallett said he had heard Schreuder was being spoken of as a possible Bok squad member but that he wasn't an international-class player and he had reservations as to whether or not he was even a player who could make it in Super Rugby.(Have to agree here Nick spot on)

Mallett was complimentary of the intensity of the occasion but felt that there was still too much ill-discipline and too much disregard for the basics of the game. He said for South Africa to be the leading rugby nation and consistently be beating the All Blacks, this area of the game had to improve.

Nick must realis e these home derbys are far more physical than when we play soft nz sides

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Oct 2013, 16:26
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27 Oct 2013, 16:26#2
Not a difficult thing to do - I dont rate Coetzee.

His selections are poor. Cilliers, Ntumbeni and de Kock Steenkamp are not physical enough and you cant play Kolisi and Fourie as flankers.....both are 6's



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Oct 2013, 16:35
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27 Oct 2013, 16:35#3
Meyer's comments were very good - is h =e now after Coetzee's job?  
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Oct 2013, 16:41
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27 Oct 2013, 16:41#4
 Mallet replacing Coetzee would be perfect
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Oct 2013, 16:59
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27 Oct 2013, 16:59#5

So Mallett liked Alberts, Steph and  Steyn and thought Schreuder may not even be S15 level. He said the chip kicks behind the defence were great. He lauded the Sharks forward power. What did Moz say straight after the game:

 

 

"For the Sharks Marais, Ludik, Lambie (in general play) McLeod, Stephanie and Alberts were huge. On the day Steph got the better of Etzebeth who was neutered by remarkably poor lineout tactics and throwing.

 

For WP Aplon was terrific without ever quite getting the final bit of space he needed. Our centre combination never worked....and Schreuder was a disaster. I have never seen what the obsession is with this player"

 

Perhaps Mallett is reading my material OOM....but I think your stuff is totally safe and proprietorial

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Oct 2013, 18:12
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27 Oct 2013, 18:12#6
He mentioned other players as well - but the useless contributor are selective again - what a joke.  
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
27 Oct 2013, 20:07
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27 Oct 2013, 20:07#7
 It seems that the Stormers defensive system is being worked out. 
Small chip kicks over the top finds space and is the easiest way to break down the Stormers defence.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 Oct 2013, 20:11
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27 Oct 2013, 20:11#8
Sharkbok: we used to do that as school boys. Don't know why it took so long for teams to figure it out. 
Maybe  it was a matter of being able to execute the tactic under the pressure the Stormers put on teams?
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
27 Oct 2013, 20:48
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27 Oct 2013, 20:48#9
yup, stormers defensive structures have been figured out by most teams, and coetzee in serious dodie if he dosent gte his act together soon and figure it out.

aplon and kolbe is a no go, both are too small, u can have one small exciting outsideback, but not two.

loose head combo was a joke, kolisi should have been on the bench, and burger shouldnt have been in the team altogether, he should have been made to work into it slowly, instead of throwing him in the deep end even if he did start from the bench, cos he was a pale shade of his former beast self.

stormers should have tried to get some of the king looseforwads when their franchise disolved, englebrechett and du preez would have fixed a few of their current looseforward issues.

JDV was big ordinary too, hope hes around next year for the Boks when the All Blacks face them, cos his form is deteriorating IMO.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Oct 2013, 22:49
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27 Oct 2013, 22:49#10
 saSUe  one of your saner posts simply becaue you are following my lead.Burger is still a way off the pace and I hope Meyer realises he will be doing Burger no favours by picking him.Rhodes should have started at 7 and Malherbe at 3. That would have altered the dynamics of the pack significantly. I am glad snapster agrees with my assessment where I noted how scurra, cilliers, steenkamp, Kolisi and Deon are small players. Too many of them are small allistair. What a loss Habana is!
Kolbe is very talented but make him into a scrummie now and he could be the worlds best. Its so obvious that this is what needs to be done.Howard could play on the wing but ou allistair loves small players .Stormers backline players:Groom, Kolbe, Sweil, CatJean, Allende, Howard, Taute, Aplon, De Jongh - who could be tried on the wing.
WP coffers must be healthy so perhaps a few imports?I note Harris played hooker when scurra went off. Fact is we need Liebenberg fit or a powerhouse mobile hooker must be found.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Oct 2013, 22:50
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27 Oct 2013, 22:50#11
 Frankly its time we got in a real coach like Dr Venter. Time to move on.
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ChippoPro3,372 posts
28 Oct 2013, 16:13
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28 Oct 2013, 16:13#12
 All you sheep making noises for some Mallett...
Are you the same people that jizzed in your pants with delight when Mallett and Rassie left the WP quarters?

Food for thought...
Both Mallett and Rassie are forward / alternative thinkers...
So now you people calling for Dr Venter, who is also a forward thinker... need to take heed of your bullshit comments when the mood suits you, and be more consistent in your opinions...


Do you want someone that thinks out of the box and is vocal?
Or do you want another BEE selection that doesn't offer ant alternative?

Look, WP play decent ball...
But with their depth and junior setup, they should be CC kings year in and year out, and they should have at least wrapped up 1 SXV trophy by now.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Oct 2013, 22:28
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28 Oct 2013, 22:28#13
Chippo our whole set up needs an overhaul. We produce immense amount of talent but its exported. The coaching staff are not up to it. The management starve the professional arm and we lose players. Top coaches walk out because of the nonsense which they can take no more.Its not only Mallet who said this it was a consensus view. 
That said I am afraid its more of the same. It's like everyone knows a central contracting system would serve the Boks well and ensure we are number 1 year in and year out. But will they change - never. Too much self interest at play.

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